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**Official** South Africa in England 2012

flibbertyjibber

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Well done Smith! Leading the way with a real captain's knock, unlike his opposite number - England could be heading into a real hole here.
Crikey talk about negative. New ball due around drinks. Couple of quick wickets and pressure back on them as they would still be over 100 behind and know they would have to bat last. The way you are talking SA are already 1-0 up.8-)
 

Burgey

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Crikey talk about negative. New ball due around drinks. Couple of quick wickets and pressure back on them as they would still be over 100 behind and know they would have to bat last. The way you are talking SA are already 1-0 up.8-)
He's making up for all the day one hubris from certain England supporters, tbf.
 

benchmark00

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This game is pretty much 50-50, couldn't be more evenly poised aws.

Saffies will probably have to bat last on a deck which will grip so they'll need to build a pretty decent lead if they want to win the game, which is a long way away atm.
 

wpdavid

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Crikey talk about negative. New ball due around drinks. Couple of quick wickets and pressure back on them as they would still be over 100 behind and know they would have to bat last. The way you are talking SA are already 1-0 up.8-)
Then they need to make much better use of the new ball than last time (vs. Peterson excepted , obv.). Someone (presumably Flower) needs to tell Broad not to waste it by bowling round the wicket into Smith's pads. And they need to start exerting some pressure. There's been too many freebies on offer.

It'll be interesting to see how many of them are up for the fight. In UAE, it wasn't very many.
 

flibbertyjibber

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He's making up for all the day one hubris from certain England supporters, tbf.
I may have gone OTT but I didn't expect it to be perfect bowling conditions yesterday for them and not for us. Had it stayed sunny or England had more than 6 overs in the great bowling conditions then England would have been in a far better position than they currently are (not that this is a bad position as SA will still have to bat very well for 2 sessions just for parity)
 

flibbertyjibber

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This game is pretty much 50-50, couldn't be more evenly poised aws.

Saffies will probably have to bat last on a deck which will grip so they'll need to build a pretty decent lead if they want to win the game, which is a long way away atm.
Totally agree with this. I reckon England will fancy their chances if they have a 200 lead on day 5 as we all know Oval wickets can get very up and down late in the game as well as this looking like it will turn a lot more.
 

wpdavid

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Totally agree with this. I reckon England will fancy their chances if they have a 200 lead on day 5 as we all know Oval wickets can get very up and down late in the game as well as this looking like it will turn a lot more.
As you've said, the 2nd new ball will be absolutely vital. Unless we've made some serious inroads by tea, then we are in trouble and a 200+ target will be dreamland.
 

ajdude

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what's the deal with fox showing eels v storm REPLAY on the main fs2 channel instead of oh i don't know something live
 

Valer

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As you've said, the 2nd new ball will be absolutely vital. Unless we've made some serious inroads by tea, then we are in trouble and a 200+ target will be dreamland.
Awata. Remember you still have Kallis / AbD / the rest (Duminy , Deer and the tail). Also the wait for the new ball is such a dire tactic.
 

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