**Official** West Indies in England 2012

[theegyptian]

****ing morons, where the **** is Buttler in the odi squad? and we still get the useless **** Hales in T20

Eng odi squad: Cook Anderson Bairstow Bell Bopara Bresnan Broad Dernbach Finn Kieswetter Morgan Patel Swann Trott

and bells back as opener. kill me now.

 

[Jacknife]

And you're seemingly acting like a damn baby about someone having a different opinion regarding Bairstow!! , Bumble was pretty much writing off the lad just because he couldn't get Pieterson and Bell out in his first spell, what the hell has Ajmal got to do with this test anyway? he was using him as a stick to beat Sunil with, which was rather stupid considering one played England in spinner conditions while the other had to play England IN ENGLAND on an absolute road, him and Nasir just didn't know what they were talking about at all.

No mate just pointing out that only a douchebag would write a 22 year old off after 3 innings and you're seemingly acting like a damn baby because a couple of commentators have a different opinion to yours about Narine.

 

[Jacknife]

Legend.

 

[Jacknife]

The thing with Compton as well is that he doesn't get drawn in to playing too many shots. With guys like Bairstow or Stokes, and to a lesser degree Taylor and Bopara, you get the feeling that they have to hit their way out of trouble, as compared to playing patiently and working through difficult periods.

Its not necessarily a bad way to play, however with a middle order of Bell, Pietersen and Prior - three strokemakers - a 'grinder' type player is what is needed IMO. Hence why Collingwood was successful at 6 - he broke up the shot-playing middle order.

Compton can grind his way to a 130+ ball 50, or accelerate depending on the game situation. Quality player.

He'd be my choice and was before Jonny got his chance, he just seems to know his game so well nowadays, he's one of best leavers of the ball I've seen around England, rarely gets out playing stupid shots and he's got a really good solid technique. Like you say he'd be a great foil to stroke makers like KP, Bell, Prior and the lower order players like Broad and Swann.

 

[Jacknife]

****ing morons, where the **** is Buttler in the odi squad? and we still get the useless **** Hales in T20

Eng odi squad: Cook Anderson Bairstow Bell Bopara Bresnan Broad Dernbach Finn Kieswetter Morgan Patel Swann Trott

and bells back as opener. kill me now.

I thought we'd all moved on from Bell, strange call if you ask me and probably most other people. It's even stranger when you realize, he's probably going to open and Kieswetter's going to stay down the order.

When will the ECB learn that Buttler is a far better 50/40 over cricketer than bloody T20 player, what does the kid have to do to get a shot in the 50 over side

 

[theegyptian]

I seriously believe Buttler needs to move to another county where he can keep wicket. I can see why England don't want to pick too many of the wicketkeeper batsman who don't keep wicket because they need some bowling options from their bowlers (Bopara, Patel). Unfortunately for Buttler at Somerset he is behind Kieswetter in the wicketkeeping. If he were to leave and find a county where he kept wicket and well he would to my mind find away into the England team as the wicketkeeper and no.5/6/7 bat. Unfortunately at the moment his batting is too high variance and he's probably not going to score enough runs to justify his place especially batting at 6 or 7. If he was a wicketkeeper he would have less pressure on the batting and I really think he would be a key player in the team.

 

[Jacknife]

I seriously believe Buttler needs to move to another county where he can keep wicket. I can see why England don't want to pick too many of the wicketkeeper batsman who don't keep wicket because they need some bowling options from their bowlers (Bopara, Patel). Unfortunately for Buttler at Somerset he is behind Kieswetter in the wicketkeeping. If he were to leave and find a county where he kept wicket and well he would to my mind find away into the England team as the wicketkeeper and no.5/6/7 bat. Unfortunately at the moment his batting is too high variance and he's probably not going to score enough runs to justify his place especially batting at 6 or 7. If he was a wicketkeeper he would have less pressure on the batting and I really think he would be a key player in the team.

That's the key for me, comes in far too down the order for Somerset. I know he likes the finishing role but if he's as good as we all think he needs to be at the very least occasionally placed higher in the order.

Surely the ECB should be telling them to get him up the order, see what he can do at 4 or 5 especially seen as he isn't keeping, even if it's just so we can see how he can handle different situations and how he goes about building a innings.

I know they did this on the Lions tour to SL and he hit a freaky not many ball hundred. It really is hard to get you're head around how someone who averages 64 at a strike rate of 123 can be left out of the side.

 

[Cabinet96]

Very strange call on Bell. Did they really just drop him for that one series because they thought he was really out of form. Did it have nothing to do with his struggles in the ODI game throughout his long career. Disappointed not to see Buttler.

 

[WindieWeathers]

When Bairstow's still stuggling to average more than 20 ten tests into his career get back to me.

Won't need to as Ravi will be replacing him by the looks of it!!

And just to show what a biased idiot bumble is, he implied that Samuels was better than Narine then turns around and says people should leave Bairstow alone because he's the next Pieterson!! ...as i said the guy doesn't have a damn clue what he's talking about!! .

 

[WindieWeathers]

And West Indies are also a side that have bowling as their strength, unlike India. They played on roads in India where the most potent bowler was Ashwin.

"Roads" that turned into raging turners on the 4th and 5th day!! ..plus it was TWO spinners they had to face in Ojha and Ashwin, how did england get on in Asia the other day? .

 

[WindieWeathers]

No mate just pointing out that only a douchebag would write a 22 year old off after 3 innings and you're seemingly acting like a damn baby because a couple of commentators have a different opinion to yours about Narine.

Says the yorkshire fan who's butthurt because his teams "great hope" got found out?!! ok then .

 

[Viscount Tom]

Do you actually intend to post anything relevant today or just attack posters and commentators because their opinion is different to your own?

 

[Cabinet96]

"Roads" that turned into raging turners on the 4th and 5th day!! ..plus it was TWO spinners they had to face in Ojha and Ashwin, how did england get on in Asia the other day? .

But they weren't raging turners on the first 3 days where they?

 

[WindieWeathers]

But they weren't raging turners on the first 3 days where they?

The biggest road was the one India batted first on and got over 600, then it started to turn when we batted. the other pitches had something in them for the bowlers.

 

[WindieWeathers]

Do you actually intend to post anything relevant today or just attack posters and commentators because their opinion is different to your own?

So people aren't attacking me for my views about Bairstow? or did you miss that?

 

[Jacknife]

So people aren't attacking me for my views about Bairstow? or did you miss that?

LOL you couldn't make this up with you, it's you crying like a teenage girl because Bumble didn't think Narine was all too flash and then you've come on here telling us all how wrong and out of order he is, even though he never said anything wrong in the first place, seriously you need to get a grip.

You then tried to have a little pop at Bairstow stating,

it's best to keep the young man in county cricket where he belong methinks.

Where exactly have I been butt hurt about him, show me big man, I just called you out on some rubbish you said, handle it. The facts is I've said exactly the same about Bairstow has I have about Narine, they both need more time at this level before they find their feet but of course you hear want you want to hear.

I'd also love to hear how Bairstow was hyped up to be anything other than a 22 year old lad that's had a couple of decent years in CC. He was that hyped up no one could even make their mind up who they wanted for the No.6 spot in the first place and after he was picked a lot of people didn't think he was the right man, oh yes he's our 'great hope' , you just seem to make bollocks up to ft you're argument don't you.

The fact is mate you're team had a decent day in a 2 day dead rubber and you've come on here to puff you're chest out and be a bit of a ****, straight up cringe-worthy tbh.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Here we go again:

West Indies in England 2012: Andy Flower looks to World Cup with Ian Bell | Cricket Features | England v West Indies | ESPN Cricinfo

Next he'll be giving Prior another go...

Oh and picking Ravi '100+ games of being ****ing useless' Bopara of course.

 

[Burgey]

Did anyone see Atherton interview the umpires about the light decision on day four? Jeez I thought it was a terrible interview, havig an unrestrained shot at the umpires the way he did.

All these pricks retire and want the players out on the field, yet were happy to take the light when offered it themselves. Suppose it's different when it isn't their career on the line.

 

[Furball]

People were bigging Narine up because England struggled against spin over the winter, and ignored the fact that visiting spinners to England, unless they're named Warne or Murali, get belted.

 

[WindieWeathers]

LOL you couldn't make this up with you, it's you crying like a teenage girl because Bumble didn't think Narine was all too flash and then you've come on here telling us all how wrong and out of order he is, even though he never said anything wrong in the first place, seriously you need to get a grip.

No i'm just pointing out what a biased idiot he is!!!.. something that you can't seem to comprehend!! , any decent commentator would take the harsh circumstances that Narine was bowling in into consideration before making a full judgement about him, but bumble was desperate to write Sunil off just because he didn't get 5/10 in his first ever spell at test level,

You then tried to have a little pop at Bairstow stating,


Where exactly have I been butt hurt about him, show me big man, I just called you out on some rubbish you said, handle it. The facts is I've said exactly the same about Bairstow has I have about Narine, they both need more time at this level before they find their feet but of course you hear want you want to hear.

I'd also love to hear how Bairstow was hyped up to be anything other than a 22 year old lad that's had a couple of decent years in CC. He was that hyped up no one could even make their mind up who they wanted for the No.6 spot in the first place and after he was picked a lot of people didn't think he was the right man, oh yes he's our 'great hope' , you just seem to make bollocks up to ft you're argument don't you.

The fact is mate you're team had a decent day in a 2 day dead rubber and you've come on here to puff you're chest out and be a bit of a ****, straight up cringe-worthy tbh.

LOL and you think i'm crying like a teenager? the fact is he does belong back in county cricket BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR TESTS YET, are you that naive to believe he's ready to face South Africa? oops i forgot he's a Yorkshire lad so obviously he'll morph into Tendy overnight in your eyes!! ,

The fact is Bairstow was shown up by James Taylor in the Lions game and failed in the tests and still Bumble is trying to say he's the next Pieterson? it's madness and just exposes the mans biased agenda, i know England are desperate to bring through some young batters because three of the south african born batters in your team are getting on in age but Bairstow simply isn't ready old chap!!, no need to spit your dummy out over it.