Furball
Evil Scotsman
Check his record against South Africa and get back to me.
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*Official* Pakistan in Bangladesh 2011
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Howe_zat
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Are you talking about Tests?
Z-Man
U19 Vice-Captain
Yes and T20 [If there is a series]
In ODIs English team is as bad as Bangladesh :\
Edit : I also believe, ODI/T20 is not the format which is an assessment of skills.
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Furball
Evil Scotsman
lol, you're a funny guy.
Z-Man
U19 Vice-Captain
Not joking when I say they are as bad as Bangladesh. Probably should've added "in Sub-continent" too but the recent series have exposed the English bowlers incompetence while bowling in sub-continent.
But Pakistan is a different case and we could very well have a good fighting series *Fingers Crossed*
Howe_zat
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Z-man, I'm at a loss to fathom why you think the Pakistan Test side is relying on individual performances at all, given what we've seen over the last year. That's before your choosing to attribute those performances to Afridi (retired from Tests since last year and hasn't really played with the current side at all), Akmal (only recently recalled) and Hafeez (averaging around 30 and all his best performances have been against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, matches where he has hardly been alone). Not only that, but if anyone in that side has been shining above their team-mates, it's Younis and Misbah, who you've ignored.
I can only assume that you haven't actually watched Pakistan in a Test for about 18 months, and are basing your assessment mostly on the World Cup.
Oh, and don't argue with GF over which players are on Bangladesh's level. There's previous there.
I can only assume that you haven't actually watched Pakistan in a Test for about 18 months, and are basing your assessment mostly on the World Cup.
Oh, and don't argue with GF over which players are on Bangladesh's level. There's previous there.
ganeshran
International Debutant
Pakistan are a damn difficult side to beat in ODIs in Sharjah. I reckon they will easily take the series.
Tests would be interesting. England has a far stronger batting and a more settled bowling line up. It would come down to how they face Ajmal. For Pakistan, the test would be to face Swann and Anderson (provided he can get the ball to swing. Anderson without movement is an all-you-can-eat-buffet for the batsmen)
Tests would be interesting. England has a far stronger batting and a more settled bowling line up. It would come down to how they face Ajmal. For Pakistan, the test would be to face Swann and Anderson (provided he can get the ball to swing. Anderson without movement is an all-you-can-eat-buffet for the batsmen)
Furball
Evil Scotsman
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International Debutant
Z-Man
U19 Vice-Captain
I was talking about it generally.
Misbah has been performing well in Tests and just recently younis started but both of these have not won games single-handedly (Minnows excluded) and at pressure situations. They never tend to click in Pressure and thats a fact although they contribute in wins mostly.
Also we can never win games with our batting against English Batting as English batting consists of 5 Younis and Misbah who can score at a greater rate [+3}
So the heroics are really the same as I earlier said.
1) Akmal can be a huge factor if he gets his chances in tests. Scores at a higher rate
2) Saeed Ajmal - unnecessary to explain
3) Afridi - For LOIs, again ^
4) Hafeez - we need his wicket taking ability against lefthanders i.e Strauss,Cook.
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ganeshran
International Debutant
Totally different conditions in England/Australia and the middle east. England's success in helpful conditions doesn't mean they will do equally well everywhere. India performed quite well at home even when we were a rank mediocre side everywhere else in the 90s/
England has a very strong side and there is every chance they will take the tests convincingly, but in ODIs Pakistan have the upper hand. England's performance in ODIs on spin friendly tracks has not been upto the mark - seen both in the world cup and the recently concluded ODI series.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Australia provides helpful bowling conditions does it?
The UAE produces spinning wickets does it?
I'm out. There's no point arguing with this sort of idiocy.
ganeshran
International Debutant
Australian wickets have good carry and bounce which are very suited to English batsmen. Its like India playing in Pakistan or Bangladesh where the conditions though not exactly same, are quite similar making it easier for the batsmen to adjust.
Pakistani spinners have done well and extracted turn out of UAE wickets. It might not always be because of the pitch being a square turner but also because of variations in speed and bounce on wickets.
The point is that Pakistan are right at home in the middle east with familiar conditions and match practice whilst England are in unfamiliar territory. It would be foolhardy to write them off from the outset simply because of their weaker batting lineup compared to the English one
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Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
well done shakib this is his HS?
African Monkey
U19 Vice-Captain
Yep it is. He scored exactly 100 against NZ in 2010. Good to see him finally convert a start into a century.