Butt/Amir/Asif - Spot Fixing Trial

[smash84]

Truthfully, I'd much rather they be banned from the game forever than get jail terms. It makes little sense to get jail terms when you're talking about like $5000. People get nothing (or probation) in the financial industry for stealing millions.

The crime/punishment is totally out of whack (in the US too).

Maybe getting banned from the game forever and getting a jail term doesn't sound too bad

 

[r3alist]

Because the cheating ****s should've been banned for life.

So because you think they should have been banned for life from cricket, a lesser jail sentence somehow makes up for that, or is equivalent to that? Wonderful logic, and s good reminder to take your posts with a pinch if salt.

 

[G.I.Joe]

I think the reason they showed up is that maybe they thought there was a good chance that not showing up for the trial would put into effect the suspended parts of their ICC bans?

 

[SJS]

Khadija, Salman's elder sister :

“The punishment is unfair, it is shocking. Our brother is innocent,”

“We talked to him this morning he was very upset and asked us to pray for him. His crime is that he was at the wrong place at the wrong time,”

“The trio had been framed and made part of a wider controversy.”​

Nadeem Akhtar. Ameer's mother :-

“My son is innocent and he did the no ball at the asking of the captain,”​

Mohammad Ijaz, Ameer's elder brother :-

“He should not have been sentenced after his confession. We were under the impression that he will be released after the imposition of a fine,”​

It must be absolute hell for the families. The stigma is far too much to handle although the conditions under which they will serve their sentences will be great compared to serving a sentence back home in Pakistan.

 

[CricAddict]

So because you think they should have been banned for life from cricket, a lesser jail sentence somehow makes up for that, or is equivalent to that? Wonderful logic, and s good reminder to take your posts with a pinch if salt.

waiting for the 'play post, not the poster' comment from a moderator

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Khadija, Salman's elder sister :

“The punishment is unfair, it is shocking. Our brother is innocent,”

“We talked to him this morning he was very upset and asked us to pray for him. His crime is that he was at the wrong place at the wrong time,”

“The trio had been framed and made part of a wider controversy.”​

Nadeem Akhtar. Ameer's mother :-

“My son is innocent and he did the no ball at the asking of the captain,”​

Mohammad Ijaz, Ameer's elder brother :-

“He should not have been sentenced after his confession. We were under the impression that he will be released after the imposition of a fine,”​

It must be absolute hell for the families. The stigma is far too much to handle although the conditions under which they will serve their sentences will be great compared to serving a sentence back home in Pakistan.

To be honest you wouldn't expect the families to say anything else.

They must be going through hell, feel sorry for them for what their relatives have put them through. As for the prisons, they are almost like a holiday camp over here. Human rights and all that etc...

 

[r3alist]

Um I have gotten some jabs from this poster once or twice from nowhere, don't tell me people start crying if they get one back??

 

[Furball]

Have they actually appealed to the CAS regarding their ban?

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Lol, to think that a time in jail is equivalent to that of a holiday camp.

 

[Furball]

To be honest you wouldn't expect the families to say anything else.

They must be going through hell, feel sorry for them for what their relatives have put them through. As for the prisons, they are almost like a holiday camp over here. Human rights and all that etc...

Have you ever been to prison or have you been reading too much Daily Mail?

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Have you ever been to prison or have you been reading too much Daily Mail?

Not like they were 20 odd years ago are they, and no I don't read the Daily Fail.

Bet it is like a holiday camp in comparison to a prison in Pakistan.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Lol, to think that a time in jail is equivalent to that of a holiday camp.

Got a mate who works as a prison guard. Just going off what he tells me regarding the rights inmates have now compared to then. If he is spouting bollocks then i am wrong for believing a mate.

 

[SJS]

To be honest you wouldn't expect the families to say anything else.

Sure. Thats right. I really feel sorry for them too. Its a terrible mess for them.

 

[Viscount Tom]

Anyone think that this would be less likely to happen if Pakistan players could play in the IPL? I mean why would Amir feel the need to fix for $2,500 when he could play in India for 6 weeks and get $500,000.

Depends when the fixing started, Majeed implied that Butt was already involved in match-fixing (almost certainly with Kamran Akmal-no one can be that bad behind the stumps).

That said they're not poor by any means.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Feel really sorry for Butt's wife and new born son. It's also really sad to see Amir's mother in such a bad state. But the worst is Asif's dad. Asif has not spent a dime on him since he became rich due to cricket. The poor man is a still living in the village off milking his cows.

 

[zaremba]

Another possibility, or more likely in conjunction with that, is that their legal teams, with no element of self-interest, obviously, advised them they had a half decent case

Could be, although Amir pleaded guilty so must have been advised that he was going to lose. I suppose a life on the run wouldn't have appealed and he still had his heart set on a rehabilitation whereby he might return to his career sooner rather than later.

 

[Cevno]

Feel really sorry for Butt's wife and new born son. It's also really sad to see Amir's mother in such a bad state. But the worst is Asif's dad. Asif has not spent a dime on him since he became rich due to cricket. The poor man is a still living in the village off milking his cows.

Asif is such a !!

 

[Furball]

Asif is such a !!

Tbf it's hardly a big deal.

 

[Himannv]

Khadija, Salman's elder sister :

“The punishment is unfair, it is shocking. Our brother is innocent,”

“We talked to him this morning he was very upset and asked us to pray for him. His crime is that he was at the wrong place at the wrong time,”

“The trio had been framed and made part of a wider controversy.”​

Nadeem Akhtar. Ameer's mother :-

“My son is innocent and he did the no ball at the asking of the captain,”​

Mohammad Ijaz, Ameer's elder brother :-

“He should not have been sentenced after his confession. We were under the impression that he will be released after the imposition of a fine,”​

It must be absolute hell for the families. The stigma is far too much to handle although the conditions under which they will serve their sentences will be great compared to serving a sentence back home in Pakistan.

Have to admit that my opinion is swayed a bit by this post. Should be enough that they are banned from cricket and heavy fines are imposed. Used to think that an example should have been made of these guys, but not anymore. Jail time is some serious **** and brands a person as a criminal for the rest of their lives. Also I dislike seeing their families suffer like this over their loved ones.

 

[fredfertang]

Could be, although Amir pleaded guilty so must have been advised that he was going to lose. I suppose a life on the run wouldn't have appealed and he still had his heart set on a rehabilitation whereby he might return to his career sooner rather than later.

I'm pretty sure Amir would have got a non-custodial had he been eligible for a community order - even not being I think I'd still have hoped for a fine once the Crown accepted my basis - don't suppose they reckoned with His Honour no-balling that cosy little arrangement!