*Official* Quarters/Semis/Final General Discussion

[Ikki]

No

winner of match 1 v winner of match 2
winner of match 3 v winner of match 4

According to this you're wrong. Makes sense too...why would the semi-finalists play a team they already faced in the group stage?

 

[Blaze 18]

Possible semi-final matches :

Semi-final one

1) Pakistan vs Australia
2) Pakistan vs India
3) West Indies vs Australia
4) West Indies vs India

Semi-final two

1) New Zealand vs England
2) New Zealand vs Sri Lanka
3) South Africa vs England
4) South Africa vs Sri Lanka

Haha, business is about to pick up.

 

[vcs]

According to this you're wrong. Makes sense too...why would the semi-finalists play a team they already faced in the group stage?

Well.. it did happen with a similar format in '96. Let's say all four members of one group qualify for the semis (as in '96) how would you prevent it from happening?

 

[Ikki]

Wait a min, what I just wrote doesn't make sense

Yeh, I guess they can't avoid it.

 

[Blaze 18]

According to this you're wrong. Makes sense too...why would the semi-finalists play a team they already faced in the group stage?

I hope this is the correct one. Would rather play Sri Lanka or England than Pakistan in this kind of form. Of course there's the small matter of beating the defending champions before that.

 

[vcs]

Wait a min, what I just wrote doesn't make sense

Yeh, I guess they can't avoid it.

What centurymaker said makes sense because if you look at the two halves, the teams are evenly distributed according to their performances in the group stages.

Group A:

Pakistan
SL
Australia
NZ

If India beat WI tomorrow,
Group B:

SA
India
England
WI

Pakistan vs. WI (1st from Group A and 4th from Group B)
India vs. Australia (2nd from Group B and 3rd from Group A)

SA vs. NZ (1st from Group B and 4th from Group A)
SL vs. England (2nd from Group A and 3rd from Group B)

Blaze : It's obvious why they shouldn't be putting India, Australia, SL and England in the same half of the draw, as much as we'd like it to be so. Would be unfair if the two group toppers Pakistan and SA were to meet in the semifinals.

 

[centurymaker]

I hope this is the correct one. Would rather play Sri Lanka or England than Pakistan in this kind of form. Of course there's the small matter of beating the defending champions before that.

The order of the games has confused a few people.

A1 v B4 Pak v WI .......... Game 1
A2 v B3 SL v Eng ...........Game 4
A3 v B2 Aus v Ind ...........Game 2
A4 v B1 NZ v SA .............Game 3

Winner of game 1 v Winner of game 2
Winner fo game 4 v Winner of game 3

 

[Blaze 18]

Jeez, all this is way too confusing. I guess cricinfo will make everything clear after tomorrow's match.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Blaze making the most sense, i.e. when you are confused just agree with what cricinfo says

 

[GIMH]

Not to beat a dead horse too much but this is indicative of how stupid it is not scheduling a venue until the groups are done

IMO they should have scheduled A1's fixture in SL, B1's in India...you can't win your group in your home WC then tough

 

[Blaze 18]

Fair point there, GIMH.

Anyway, I've been doing a bit of reading. It seems centurymaker and vcs are right.

A1 versus B4 = Quarter-final one (Pakistan vs West Indies)
A2 versus B3 = Quarter-final two (Sri Lanka vs England)
A3 versus B2 = Quarter-final three (Australia vs India)
A4 versus B1 = Quarter-final four (New Zealand vs South Africa)

Pakistan v West Indies - Mirpur (March 23)
Australia v India - Ahmedabad (March 24)
New Zealand v South Africa - Mirpur (March 25)
Sri Lanka v England - Colombo (March 26)

Semi-final one will be played between the winner of quarter-final one and quarter-final three, i.e, the winner of Pakistan-West Indies will face the winner of Australia-India. Semi-final two will be played between the winner of quarter-final two and the winner of quarter-final four,i.e,the winner of Sri Lanka-England will face off against the winner of New Zealand-South Africa.

 

[ankitj]

Fair point there, GIMH.

Anyway, I've been doing a bit of reading. It seems centurymaker and vcs are right.

A1 versus B4 = Quarter-final one (Pakistan vs West Indies)
A2 versus B3 = Quarter-final two (Sri Lanka vs England)
A3 versus B2 = Quarter-final three (Australia vs India)
A4 versus B1 = Quarter-final four (New Zealand vs South Africa)

Pakistan v West Indies - Mirpur (March 23)
Australia v India - Ahmedabad (March 24)
New Zealand v South Africa - Mirpur (March 25)
Sri Lanka v England - Colombo (March 26)

Semi-final one will be played between the winner of quarter-final one and quarter-final three, i.e, the winner of Pakistan-West Indies will face the winner of Australia-India. Semi-final two will be played between the winner of quarter-final two and the winner of quarter-final four,i.e,the winner of Sri Lanka-England will face off against the winner of New Zealand-South Africa.

Rocket science

Usually, in draws, they won't let A1 meet either B1 or A2 in semis. Don't think it's going to be any different here

 

[Howe_zat]

Hoping for an India-Pakistan semi myself - looking the most likely right now too.

 

[Cruxdude]

Aussies in the quarters seems very much like an exit sign for us. Hope we can win it a la 2000 champions trophy.

 

[Flem274*]

I'm all for a repeat of the 2000 ICC Champions Trophy results.

 

[Shri]

I'm all for a repeat of the 2000 ICC Champions Trophy results.

Will never forget Cairns smashing Kumble for a straight six in the final.

 

[social]

Assuming Oz plays India in the quarters, I can see us winning that UNLESS the home side produces a dust bowl and plays a few spinners, which I would definitely do if I was them

However, we're no hope in Colombo in the semis no matter who we play

 

[pup11]

Assuming Oz plays India in the quarters, I can see us winning that UNLESS the home side produces a dust bowl and plays a few spinners, which I would definitely do if I was them

However, we're no hope in Colombo in the semis no matter who we play

Teams preparing dust bowls or unleashing their whole spin arsenal upon our batsmen shouldn't really come as a surprise anymore and unlike you I'm not too sure we would beat India (due to mentioned reasons), but if we do that then I can't see even the Colombo pitch stopping us from going all the way.

So frankly speaking its the possible clash with India that I'm really tense about because I can already see them bowling almost 40-45 overs of spin at us so therefore we just have to find a way counter that.

 

[Spark]

Yeah but as I said - isn't Ahmedebad generally speaking a complete road? I remember the curator being a stubborn bloke too.

 

[pup11]

Yeah but as I said - isn't Ahmedebad generally speaking a complete road? I remember the curator being a stubborn bloke too.

Yeah... but its the same venue where we got choked by the Zimbabwean spinners..!!