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*Official* English Football Season 2010-11
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
May have been a little enthusiastic with the Arsenal fixtures...
Edit, and with West Ham's for that matter
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Just been on the Betfair website to find Andy Gray grinning back at me, guess he works for them as well now, WAC.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Bendtner to wait for summer | Sky Sports | Arsenal News | Football | Premier League
Hmmm...
Wouldn't mind him saying these things if he actually was genuinely tearing it up each week, but when he's routinely crap this sort of thing gets right up my nose. Don't need players with more ego than talent.
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Jarquis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I'd love for you to be right but United will pick up more than 21 points from their last 13 games and Birmingham will pick up more than 5(!) from the available 42
May have been a little enthusiastic with the Arsenal fixtures...
Edit, and with West Ham's for that matter
Reckon I'm a bit off with my United/Arsenal points. They'll drop more.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
I have United to finish on 79 points with Arsenal on 78, having accounted for the extra fixtures not included in that predictor.
shivfan
Banned
Good....
At least West Ham are planning to keep the running track. That way, London can always bid for future international athletics events, such as the World Champs, while Spurs only seems to care about football.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Having said that, I saw an interview with Alan Sugar moaning about this decision earlier on, and I couldn't really disagree with a lot of what he said. It's true that football stadiums which encompass athletics tracks around their perimeter are generally poor and disliked by fans, just look at the debacle involving the two Turin sides for a perfect illustration of this. Also, how any athletics events are likely to be staged at the ground regardless of who the footballing tenant there is? Trying to maintain the ground purely on the basis of preserving the Olympic spirit or whatever it is doesn't seem to make good sense, economically or for a variety of other reasons. Much as I'm glad it looks like Spurs are going to miss out on getting the ground, I have to say the logic behind the decision (if it turns out as has been predicted) appears to be tenuous at best.
shivfan
Banned
Which football fans don't like football grounds surrounded by a running track? Paris had one for the 1998 World Cup final, and it worked fine. Jamaica and Trinidad currently have their football fields at their national stadiums surrounded by a running track, and it works fine for them too. No problems with atmosphere there....
Athletics events are only likely to occur in the summer, when the football season is over. London could bid to host the World Champs, as Daegu (South Korea) have done. Also, Daegu currently hosts a Diamond League event, which London could also do, if they wanted.
I really don't think the comparison with Milan or Turin holds any water....
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
To be fair, Spurs were going to revamp Crystal Palace into a purpose built athletics stadium, but my problem with them was a) muscling in on someone else's territory and b) removing the track would've gone against the premise on which we got the Olympics.Good....
At least West Ham are planning to keep the running track. That way, London can always bid for future international athletics events, such as the World Champs, while Spurs only seems to care about football.
Personally I'm not sure a running track around a football pitch does work, the atmosphere is much less.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Why not? You're happy to compare this instance to a variety of other countries which fit in line with your argument, but any that don't fall into this category are not applicable? Quite honestly, Jamaica and T&T and the UK are not comparable in this context, it's obvious for all to see, and I mean no disrespect to them in saying that.
The fact that Athletics are only likely to occur in the summer makes no difference whatsoever. I have no concerns about timetabling clashes or whatever, but what justification is there in keeping a running track when for 80% of the year the stadium is used for other purposes?
Craig
World Traveller
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Furball
Evil Scotsman
Hampden has retained its oval shape and it's ****.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
I would also rather play for Barcelona tbh.
shivfan
Banned
Daniel Levy talks out of both sides of his mouth, and is renowned for changing his story. What exactly does he mean by 'revamp'? Does that mean fixing CP up to look what he, Daniel Levy, thinks is good enough? Or to revamp it to a level that the athletics chiefs feel happy with it? That's two totally different perceptions. It would cost one helluva lot of money to fix up CP to make it acceptable enough to bid to host a World Champs, for example. It would probably have to be demolished and totally rebuilt, and I really don't see Levy making that level of commitment to destroy and rebuild two totally new stadiums.
The Olympic stadium, as it currently exists, could easily bid to host a World Champs in the near future....
And Paris has a football stadium ring-fenced by a running track, and it worked fine for the World Cup final. So, why not here?
shivfan
Banned
That's because I don't see how Turin is relevant to the discussion. Are you saying Juventus and Lazio are sharing grounds? Or are you mixing it up with Milan, where AC and Inter are ground-sharing? And how does two football teams sharing grounds have any relevance to a ground being shared by two totally different sports at different times of the year?
And you still haven't shown me why it's wrong to keep a running track when for 80% of the year the stadium is used for other purposes. Other countries do it, so why not West Ham?