*Official* - Pakistan in New Zealand 2010/2011

[Mike5181]

Black Caps do some soul searching - Newstalk ZB

Seems they have had a heart to heart meeting after the 14 losses in 15 games.

 

[Flem274*]

I want to make a joke but instead I'll point out he had an excellent List A strike rate in the season he was initially picked, and he was awful in ODIs. I'd be very hesitant to pick him when he's not doing anything domestically he hasn't done already.

 

[Flem274*]

There's been some beautiful raging in this thread, and I agree with all of it.

 

[Hurricane]

I blame Colin Munro. He could have done better if he had watched Daniel Flynn.

Indeed.

 

[Howsie]

I want to make a joke but instead I'll point out he had an excellent List A strike rate in the season he was initially picked, and he was awful in ODIs. I'd be very hesitant to pick him when he's not doing anything domestically he hasn't done already.

Batting in the middle to lower order. Most of Daniel Flynn's success in domestic one day cricket has come from batting up the order - he batted at three the entire 07-08 season. He's a much better one day batsmen up the order imo.

 

[NZTailender]

Shades of Jack in The Shining there.

All dots and no runs makes Flynn a dull boy.

 

[James]

All the posts surrounding the TAB have been deleted due to potential legal issues around that. Making those kind of comments could potentially get the site in trouble.

 

[slugger]

Move McCullum back up the order.

Then move him back down

Then back up

Then back down


FFS, the grass is always greener.

But consider this: overs 1-15 are almost always powerplays. Versus 5 overs at the end when noone knows when they will be.

Moving McCullum around the order based on this one 5-over block just ****s with everyone.

Best to open with McCullum and let him cut loose for a whole 15 overs at the start and then for **** sake take the powerplay when two set batsmen are in anywhere between overs 35 and 50. People think that we need an Afridi-like batsman in that powerplay, but in reality any set international batsman should be able to find the boundary and gaps in the field when there are only 2 outside the circle.

Sick and tired of them leaving it and leaving it until we are 6 down with two new batsmen at the crease.

Maybe they should have appraoched this series with the no#1 team and tried out different ways of using power plays. so when they go to the WC theyve required some tactnical skills in when to use the flexible power playes based on different circumstances. rather than being like every other team and using the power plays in the later overs.

 

[Faisal1985]

umar with the gloves with the gloves is a good idea IMO but the elder khatmal seems to have a strong hold on the team for some reason, even though he has been quite ordinary

Kamran is ordinary with gloves for sure but I think he will be strong prospect on Subcontinent pitches....I like the fact that he is batting number 3 at least it wouldn't suck the life out of opening power play if we lose an early wicket.

Ahmed Shehzad was an inspiration to watch in the last game...hit a six while batting at 92 and in the hunt for his first ton says a lot about his nerveless mindset. Good find for Pak.

 

[Howe_zat]

It takes real maturity to spot the weak links in a winning side. I for one have no confidence at all left in Kamran, and while I can see the lack of wicketkeeping options I would rather have Asad Shafique playing and Umar keeping wicket.

Interestingly, I continue to find New Zealand as favourites for this match. That greatly surprises me.

 

[smash84]

It takes real maturity to spot the weak links in a winning side. I for one have no confidence at all left in Kamran, and while I can see the lack of wicketkeeping options I would rather have Asad Shafique playing and Umar keeping wicket.

Interestingly, I continue to find New Zealand as favourites for this match. That greatly surprises me.

Well said. Except for the last line.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Well said. Except for the last line.

Not really, Pakistan will rest their key players because of this last match being a dead rubber and so NZ are probably favourites. Plus they have something to prove to their fans so they will be more motivated.

I agree that Kakmal needs to be replaced by Shafiq.

 

[BeeGee]

Someone should kidnap the selectors and force them to play this side for the next ODI.

McCullum
Guptill
Ryder
Taylor
Styris
Franklin
Oram
N McCullum
Vettori
Mills
Southee

With only Bennett considered as well. He has been impressive before today and has actually looked like he was trying his ass off which can't be said for some of the others.

Totally agree with this 11. It seems so obvious, yet the selectors don't seem to be able to see it. Very exciting opening combo, batting all the way down and 7 bowling options. What's not to like?

 

[Howe_zat]

Well said. Except for the last line.

Not really, Pakistan will rest their key players because of this last match being a dead rubber and so NZ are probably favourites. Plus they have something to prove to their fans so they will be more motivated.

I agree that Kakmal needs to be replaced by Shafiq.

My point is that I have found NZ as favourites on betting websites, which I disagree with. Should have made that clearer.

I've already bet on Pakistan to win again (at 2.04)

 

[Fusion]

My point is that I have found NZ as favourites on betting websites, which I disagree with. Should have made that clearer.

I've already bet on Pakistan to win again (at 2.04)

If I were a betting man, and I'm not, I would never bet on Pakistan whether they were favorites or underdogs. It's cliched, but they're simply too unpredictable.

 

[Howe_zat]

If I were a betting man, and I'm not, I would never bet on Pakistan whether they were favorites or underdogs. It's cliched, but they're simply too unpredictable.

Unpredictable, but too good for a 2.04 against New Zealand. In the words of Andy Zaltzman, "good enough to beat anyone in the world, including themselves".

When you bet at over 2.00, you can wait for the other team to get that high and hedge your bet. Almost always worth it before a close game.

 

[Xuhaib]

a little off topic on Ahmed Shehzad.

Last summer I was in Pataya Thailand and there I saw an alcohol infused Ahmed Shehzad dragging himself in the night market with two questionable Thai ladies on his two sides, this is all before he has achieved any stardom.According to some reports his attitude makes a young Shoaib Akhtar look like an angel.

 

[salman85]

I don't care if he does heroin and sleeps with 10 hookers everynight as long as he's doing well for the team.

 

[Xuhaib]

I don't care if he does heroin and sleeps with 10 hookers everynight as long as he's doing well for the team.

haha...I know just pointing out don;t act surprised if he starts acting like a jerk after few decent games our players are effected with this bimaari by birth.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

a little off topic on Ahmed Shehzad.

Last summer I was in Pataya Thailand and there I saw an alcohol infused Ahmed Shehzad dragging himself in the night market with two questionable Thai ladies on his two sides, this is all before he has achieved any stardom.According to some reports his attitude makes a young Shoaib Akhtar look like an angel.

Wow what are the odds of you being there at that moment in time. you should have asked Shehzad to share the ganja and one of the ladies