*Official* English Domestic Season Thread 2010

[irottev]

He has an impressive record. That's for sure.

 

[irottev]

Terrible captaincy. Why not bowl him to the 2 tailenders. He deserves it.

 

[wpdavid]

This is like a throwback to the days of uncovered wickets - I'm trying to remember when a side was last bowled out for this sort of score in England. I remember Middlesex getting Glamorgan out for 31, I think it was, but that would have been in the 90s.

Do you remember Surrey being dismissed for 14 by Essex? I think it happened around the early/mid 1980's.

 

[Stoggler]

Gloucestershire are 25-2 at lunch, so that's 14 wickets for just 69 runs in a session. Are they playing on a mole-infested wasteland?

 

[Scaly piscine]

KP on his way to Slurrey then.

 

[Flyonthewall]

Do you remember Surrey being dismissed for 14 by Essex? I think it happened around the early/mid 1980's.

Haha, I never thought I'd read that a side had once been dismissed for lower than my age. . In saying that, I'm pretty sure Gloucestershire once bowled a side (Northants?) out for something like 12 in the Grace era, so it does happen, clearly. Still, 44 is pretty ridiculous really. Franklin WAG, so glad he doesn't seem to play for New Zealand anymore, he's been gun this season and last for Gloucestershire.

P.S. Stumpski wasn't the 31 that Glamorgan made in their Championship season (97-ish)?

 

[Athlai]

Franklin all is forgiven!

Na jk Ive always loved you. You are my Sinclair.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Would be pretty hilarious if it was over in a day, which is a distinct possibility. Gloucester will probably get minus points for this match though after the pitch inspector's has a look.

 

[aussie]

Franklyn taking 7 wickets pretty much shows how shocking poor Div 2 is, my word. He certainly isn't capable of doing that in international crickert - where he is quite woeful.

 

[Flyonthewall]

Franklyn taking 7 wickets pretty much shows how shocking poor Div 2 is, my word. He certainly isn't capable of doing that in international crickert - where he is quite woeful.

Meh, he's done it in Division 1 in the past as well tbf.

 

[aussie]

Meh, he's done it in Division 1 in the past as well tbf.

Yea i remember him doing well batting in the top 5/6 in DIv 1 couple season back. But when NZ tried him out in such a role @ test & ODI level he looked woefully medicore. Another clear sign that Div 2 mediocrity has crept into Div 1.

 

[stumpski]

KP on his way to Slurrey then.

Hmmm, not sure he'll be here beyond this season, but good luck to him I suppose. Not sure we have any chance of progressing in either of the remaining competitions.

Owais Shah being released by Middlesex is more interesting I think, as someone who actually plays county cricket. Another one tipped for Surrey, we have had a few of them over the years but unless Afzaal leaves the club I can't see how we can fit him in.

And Middlesex delighted to announce they've held onto Eoin Morgan, who they expect to have available for two Twenty20 matches next season.

 

[Manee]

Franklyn taking 7 wickets pretty much shows how shocking poor Div 2 is, my word. He certainly isn't capable of doing that in international crickert - where he is quite woeful.

How on earth can you say that a bowler that you have seen bowl a few times on TV is completely incapable of bowling a superb spell. Because a bowler has not done it in the few times you have watched him does not mean he cannot bowl out competant batsmen on his day.

 

[Jarquis]

Mark Davies much.

 

[aussie]

How on earth can you say that a bowler that you have seen bowl a few times on TV is completely incapable of bowling a superb spell. Because a bowler has not done it in the few times you have watched him does not mean he cannot bowl out competant batsmen on his day.

Firslty i have seen Franlyn bowl more than just a few times on TV. I have rather seen him bowl MANY teams in ODIs & test for NZ over the years. It is very obvious that role he plays here in county cricket & back in NZ domestic cricket, where he bats in the top 5/6 & bowls well with the new-ball - he is incapable of translating on the international stage.

The fact that he continues to fail @ that role in international cricket (most recently vs AUS early this year & test vs IND in early 2009), But continously go back to domestic cricket in ENG/NZ & succeeding in that role, clearly shows that standard of cricket in those domestic competitions are mediocre.

 

[Manee]

Firslty i have seen Franlyn bowl more than just a few times on TV. I have rather seen him bowl MANY teams in ODIs & test for NZ over the years. It is very obvious that role he plays here in county cricket & back in NZ domestic cricket, where he bats in the top 5/6 & bowls well with the new-ball - he is incapable of translating on the international stage.

The fact that he continues to fail @ that role in international cricket (most recently vs AUS early this year & test vs IND in early 2009), But continously go back to domestic cricket in ENG/NZ & succeeding in that role, clearly shows that standard of cricket in those domestic competitions are mediocre.

Ah, but you noted that Franklin's seven wickets noted how poor Division Two was. I am just saying that most bowlers at FC level are capable of a destructive spell, especially if they swing the ball. If you had noted Franklin's sustained success at FC level as evidence of the poor standard of Division Two, I would not have quarrelled.

 

[Prince EWS]

Firslty i have seen Franlyn bowl more than just a few times on TV. I have rather seen him bowl MANY teams in ODIs & test for NZ over the years. It is very obvious that role he plays here in county cricket & back in NZ domestic cricket, where he bats in the top 5/6 & bowls well with the new-ball - he is incapable of translating on the international stage.

The fact that he continues to fail @ that role in international cricket (most recently vs AUS early this year & test vs IND in early 2009), But continously go back to domestic cricket in ENG/NZ & succeeding in that role, clearly shows that standard of cricket in those domestic competitions are mediocre.

Pre-injury, Franklin bowled many a good spell in Test cricket. He was a genuinely good bowler. Pie-chucker these days though, unfortunately.

England does suit his bowling style particularly well, however, so it doesn't surprise me that he does well in County Cricket.

 

[Prince EWS]

Franklin all is forgiven!

Na jk Ive always loved you. You are my Sinclair.

I love him as well tbh; hopefully this means he's suddenly woken up and realised he's a bowler again, although I doubt it unfortunately.

 

[stumpski]

Haha, I never thought I'd read that a side had once been dismissed for lower than my age. . In saying that, I'm pretty sure Gloucestershire once bowled a side (Northants?) out for something like 12 in the Grace era, so it does happen, clearly. Still, 44 is pretty ridiculous really. Franklin WAG, so glad he doesn't seem to play for New Zealand anymore, he's been gun this season and last for Gloucestershire.

P.S. Stumpski wasn't the 31 that Glamorgan made in their Championship season (97-ish)?

Yup, here it is, at Cardiff, not Lord's as I thought. Middlesex took a first innings lead of 38 and can hardly have thought it would be enough to win by an innings. I wonder if that's the lowest ever total by a side that went on to win the title.

Would be pretty hilarious if it was over in a day, which is a distinct possibility. Gloucester will probably get minus points for this match though after the pitch inspector's has a look.

He went away quite satisfied apparently, which suggests it was really all down to overhead conditions.

 

[stumpski]

Notts in a spot of early trouble against Durham, not as bad as Kent though, reduced to 72-9 by Woakes and Carter.