Broad cops up a bit of trouble.

[Scaly piscine]

Should have been banned.

Threw it straight at Haider in frustration and there was no way he could have got out of the way.
Could have seriously injured his ribs or his wrists too.

Absolute bollocks.

Unlike Asif he didn't fire it in.

 

[andyc]

Unlike Asif he didn't miss.

 

[GIMH]

I haven't seen the Asif one I don't think...did Colly actually have to jump out of the way or would it have missed anyway?

 

[Jacknife]

Asif's throw went well over the batsman's head now unlike Broad's which actually hit the batsman.

That's wrong,Colly moved out of the way so the ball didn't hit him,but the intent was the same,to get at the batsman and his own frustration getting the better of him.The best thing is what was said on the cricinfo ball by ball when Asif threw the ball, 'Pakistan are standing up and taking the fight to England'.

 

[R_D]

Should have been banned for this....

 

[honestbharani]

The only difference between the 2 was that Colly managed to dodge out of the way,so don't give me this one went over his head business business,the intent of both bowlers was exactly the same.Broad should get fined but there is no excuse no treating both situations the same.

Haider just stood there and LET the ball hit him???????????

 

[Sir Alex]

Ha ha ridiculous. Second or third time getting away with over appealing.

 

[Matt79]

He's not exactly Robinson Crusoe there though. The two things are separate in my mind, in terms of punishments (potentially not separate in terms of whether as fans we like the cut of his jib).

 

[Sir Alex]

He's not exactly Robinson Crusoe there though. The two things are separate in my mind, in terms of punishments (potentially not separate in terms of whether as fans we like the cut of his jib).

Langeveldt was fined 75 per cent or something for celebrating before verdict.

Broad has already got away with one clear instance. He repeated it twice in this test match. Should've been punished for that too.

Stupid refereeing.

 

[Matt79]

But dozens of guys have got away with it without being pinged - pretty much every spinner since Shane Warne comes to mind. I'm not saying that it's a good state of affairs, but I don't think Broad not getting fined or whatever is the surprising situation you're suggesting.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Yep Aussies have been getting away with umpire intimidation and disrespectful appealing for all the time I've been watching cricket.

 

[Top_Cat]

TBH, used to quite enjoy pausing for effect before saying "Not out" when blokes just started celebrating a wicket without looking back.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

That's wrong,Colly moved out of the way so the ball didn't hit him,but the intent was the same,to get at the batsman and his own frustration getting the better of him.The best thing is what was said on the cricinfo ball by ball when Asif threw the ball, 'Pakistan are standing up and taking the fight to England'.

Maybe we both saw different videos.Asif's throw missed Colly quite comfotably.I am confident it would have missed him even if Colly hadn't moved. Even otherwise at least Colly had a chance to move,Broad just threw it straight at Haider and pretended to apologise

I can't believe Broad is being defended.He got away with ball tampering and now this.

 

[Top_Cat]

Yep Aussies have been getting away with umpire intimidation and disrespectful appealing for all the time I've been watching cricket.

As if it's a uniquely Aussie thing. Every Test bowler worth a damn as tried one on with the umpires at some stage and generally do it pretty regularly. Can barely think of a bowler who hasn't since I've been watching.

It's professional sport. Can't think of one other sport where officials are such a protected species.

 

[Jacknife]

Maybe we both saw different videos.Asif's throw missed Colly quite comfotably.I am confident it would have missed him even if Colly hadn't moved. Even otherwise at least Colly had a chance to move,Broad just threw it straight at Haider and pretended to apologise

I can't believe Broad is being defended.He got away with ball tampering and now this.

Come on now your better than that,I take it you mean when Broad stopped the ball when it was it back to him with his foot,the idea that he was trying to tamper with the ball with his foot goes against what a fast bowler his trying to get the ball to do.Like was mentioned at the time if anything he was damaging the ball for himself and the other fast bowlers.How has he got away with this,he's been fined for it.I don't think many are defending him,I personally brought up something Asif did,that was the same and suggested that both be punished not just Broad,whether Colly dodged the ball or not it's exactly the same intent.

 

[Matt79]

As if it's a uniquely Aussie thing. Every Test bowler worth a damn as tried one on with the umpires at some stage and generally do it pretty regularly. Can barely think of a bowler who hasn't since I've been watching.

It's professional sport. Can't think of one other sport where officials are such a protected species.

Thought you followed AFL? Adam Goodes gave a very small finger wave at an ump on the weekend and got a fifty meter penalty given.

 

[Jarquis]

TBH, used to quite enjoy pausing for effect before saying "Not out" when blokes just started celebrating a wicket without looking back.

I always do it Best is when you take a stone out of your pocket and they thing you're going to put the finger up. Just put the stone in the other hand and say not out.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I'm not going to defend Broad; his actions were childish and petulent and his apology barely worthy of the name. However he was never going to be banned for his first offence, particularly when he had the mitigation of a recent bereavment. Any lawyer worth his salt would've talked it down to a fine. He shouldn't have done it, no but the accusations of bias in the judiciary are cobblers, clearly.

 

[Matt79]

I don't think the recent bereavement thing should make any difference to the penalty side of it, but some people might consider it on the "do you think he's a jerk" front.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

Come on now your better than that,I take it you mean when Broad stopped the ball when it was it back to him with his foot,the idea that he was trying to tamper with the ball with his foot goes against what a fast bowler his trying to get the ball to do.Like was mentioned at the time if anything he was damaging the ball for himself and the other fast bowlers.How has he got away with this,he's been fined for it.I don't think many are defending him,I personally brought up something Asif did,that was the same and suggested that both be punished not just Broad,whether Colly dodged the ball or not it's exactly the same intent.

We'll leave the ball tampering discussion for another thread as the mods may not take too kindly to us going off-topic.

The fine that he has got is nothing really.A Pak player in his place would have got banned,I'm willing to bet my life savings on that.


What Asif did wasn't the same.The ball missed Colly comfortably and would have,in all likehihood,missed even if he hadn't dodged.What Broad did isn't really comparable.

Can someone post the Asif video please?I am unable to find it.