Philip Hughes

[Burgey]

Pardon?

Was waiting for this tbh

 

[Sir Alex]

With apologies to Winston S Churchill (Eng.)

Good 'un!

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Same league that our new Test star averaged 24 in last season?

(God what a pointless post)

Where have i said Morgan is a star?

Good one day player yes but not anywhere near proven in the longer form of the game.At least it isn't Bloopara though as he may come off.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

It's in the right thread then.

Can the Mods make a conscious decision not to do anything to flibbertyjibberer before the Ashes please? Look forward to having a fair amount of fun at his expense.

How?

You aren't going to win.

 

[Burgey]

How?

You aren't going to win.

If you keep making hot-headed OTT posts, I'll still have a **** load of fun, don't worry

 

[flibbertyjibber]

If you keep making hot-headed OTT posts, I'll still have a **** load of fun, don't worry

How.

So having an opinion and stating it is hot headed is it?

 

[Burgey]

How.

So having an opinion and stating it is hot headed is it?

This is why it will be fun

 

[flibbertyjibber]

This is why it will be fun

I thought messageboards were about having an opinion and stating it though.Some on here obviously don't then and some Aussies are easily offended.

 

[Burgey]

Don't pontificate mate. it's all good - when has anyone said you can't state an opinion?

You won't find me easily offended mate. I've put up with Corrin (Geraintismyhero) for nearly 4 years now

 

[Migara]

Wrist postilion doesn't directly effect swing but it does effect the axis of rotation of the ball which effects swing I suppose.

And I definitely agree that skiddy bowlers somehow manage to find swing in unlikely places but again I think that is because the axis of rotation of the ball alone has an impact on swing.

You could just test this in your backyard using a tennis ball, an upright action doesn't swing it but if you try to bowl it side-on, you will notice that the ball slightly swings and dips late into the right-hander (if you are a right handed bowler).

I manage to do that even with a very high arm open chested action with the tennis ball. The dynamics of a tennis ball is a completely DIFFERENT kettle of fish I think. That may be the reason that I am quite good with medium pace with the tennis ball buck suck with the wrist spin and vice versa with the hard ball.

 

[Goughy]

Was waiting for this tbh

From me or someone in general?

Re: Wrist position. Do you agree it is important?

 

[Burgey]

From me or someone in general?

Re: Wrist position. Do you agree it is important?

From you mate, as iyou know more about the technical side of bowling than do most here, certainly myself included.

I certainly agree it's important, but not from first hand experience. My only bowl comes in a Chinese restaurant.

Only have to look at Johnson imo. I mean, when you replay the balls he's gotten to swing, his wrist seems behind the ball. When he doesn't, it isn't. It seems a bit of an accident in his case too.

McGrath seemed to have perfect wrist position though, to my less-than-educated eye, but didn't swing it all that much. Not sure why.

 

[Goughy]

From you mate, as iyou know more about the technical side of bowling than do most here, certainly myself included.

I certainly agree it's important, but not from first hand experience. My only bowl comes in a Chinese restaurant.

Only have to look at Johnson imo. I mean, when you replay the balls he's gotten to swing, his wrist seems behind the ball. When he doesn't, it isn't. It seems a bit of an accident in his case too.

McGrath seemed to have perfect wrist position though, to my less-than-educated eye, but didn't swing it all that much. Not sure why.

Wrist position and swinging the ball is the difference between this

and this

Both maintain a pretty straight seam due to having the wrist behind the ball but the wrist position determines the direction the seam faces. One will swing away from the right hander and the other may, or may not, do a little bit in the air or off the seam

EDIT- Of course, length bowled makes a difference as well.

 

[Top_Cat]

Goughy. Nail. Head.

 

[Jakester1288]

Dudes, TumTum's an absolute idiot, know him from PlanetCricket. Ignore his garbage.

 

[vic_orthdox]

*sigh* Jake, refrain from insults. The guy wants a fresh start, no need for you to go around telling everyone that he's supposedly "an idiot".

 

[TumTum]

Dudes, TumTum's an absolute idiot, know him from PlanetCricket. Ignore his garbage.

Your reputation there is not so great either

 

[andyc]

Your reputation there is not so great either

There's no need for posts like this TumTum, especially considering that another mod had just reprimanded Jake for his post.

 

[Burgey]

There's no need for posts like this TumTum, especially considering that another mod had just reprimanded Jake for his post.

Two more weeks.

Candy 4-1.