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Smith to take North spot at No 6 for Aus test team

andyc

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Also a bit harsh holding White's Test record against him given that he was selected as a bowler (still can't get over this, just wtf) and came in at number 8.
 

andyc

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Also a bit harsh holding White's Test record against him given that he was selected as a bowler (still can't get over this, just wtf) and came in at number 8.
 

Johnners

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Heh, Jake clearly forgetting about how good White has been in the Shield over the past 2-3 seasons.

Agree with PEWS to re: Watto @ 3 & Clarke 4. Not sure what the means for a long term opener though after Katman retires (Assuming Hughes has one of the spots).
 

Jakester1288

International Regular
As opposed to a guy like Ferguson who has a worse and much less complete FC record but has scored some much less pressured runs in a couple of ODIs and is yet to make it back from a serious injury? 8-)
What's that got to do with the future? I reckon that he will grow into a good FC and Test player, he's already scored at international level in ODI.

Heh, Jake clearly forgetting about how good White has been in the Shield over the past 2-3 seasons.
I'm not sure whether I posted it or not, but I didn't check his FC record before making the post. My post wasn't based on any stats, rather my personal opinion.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
What's that got to do with the future? I reckon that he will grow into a good FC and Test player, he's already scored at international level in ODI.
People think the same of White though. You can have your opinion but you ironically criticised others for coming to theirs through a certain method which was actually exactly the same as your method.

The only thing Ferguson has over White is that he has a prettier technique, but his technique's always been pretty and he's always scored not-many.
 

Johnners

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Not sure what his stats are either, but I do know he's been really quite exceptional. I love Ferguson, but there's no way he's even close to being ready for Test cricket yet, not until he can consistently convert his sublime looking 30's-60's into 120+ scores.
 

Noble One

International Vice-Captain
What's that got to do with the future? I reckon that he will grow into a good FC and Test player, he's already scored at international level in ODI.
The assumption that Ferguson will grow into a Test class player is still a long way off. We are talking about a cricketer who has done very little in his first class career to-date (one and a half seasons of good batting out of nearly half a decade in the system). He is coming back from a very tough injury, still needs to gain some fitness, and re-discover any of the same touch he had pre-injury.

Need to remember Ferguson is only a year younger than White, and White is well ahead in terms of a proven record. I would also suggest that given the age difference White has just as much room for improvement than Ferguson, you only need to see how much he has tightened up his game since essentially giving away the leg-breaks.
 

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Watto the obvious post-Ponting number 3 for mine. Mitch Marsh might be a candidate post Watto, miles to go yet for him.
 

TumTum

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White has such stupid looking stance and technique. I can't see him batting in Tests,

Ferguson was rated by Ponting as a future start and his replacement, but I disagree,. As far as I'm concerned, he has no technique.

Mitchell Marsh on the other hand has the 2nd best technique in all of Australia behind Ponting, that's how highly I rate him.
 

Kylez

State Vice-Captain
White has such stupid looking stance and technique. I can't see him batting in Tests,

Ferguson was rated by Ponting as a future start and his replacement, but I disagree,. As far as I'm concerned, he has no technique.

Mitchell Marsh on the other hand has the 2nd best technique in all of Australia behind Ponting, that's how highly I rate him.
Don't agree with this.

I've seen Cameron White play shield cricket before and his stance is fine and I think he could be a decent batsmen in test cricket, his technique isn't the best when it comes to facing swing bowling, but he has tightened up his batting recently and his past few seasons for Victoria and for Australia at the moment prove this.

What do you mean he has no technique? How can you have no technique? If you've seen him play for Australia and seen some of his ODI knocks then you'll know that he has some kind of ' technique '. Personally I think Ferguson will continue his good form from last season and score more runs for the Redbacks, and eventually grab a test spot.

Also, I think Mitchell Marsh is a huge talent for Australia, but saying he has the 2nd best technique in the country? Thats a bit over the top IMO, I mean how many games have you actually seen him play? because he has only played a few for the Warriors plus for the U19's, is still very young to.

Too much talk on techniques IMO.
 

TumTum

Banned
Don't agree with this.

I've seen Cameron White play shield cricket before and his stance is fine and I think he could be a decent batsmen in test cricket, his technique isn't the best when it comes to facing swing bowling, but he has tightened up his batting recently and his past few seasons for Victoria and for Australia at the moment prove this.

What do you mean he has no technique? How can you have no technique? If you've seen him play for Australia and seen some of his ODI knocks then you'll know that he has some kind of ' technique '. Personally I think Ferguson will continue his good form from last season and score more runs for the Redbacks, and eventually grab a test spot.

Also, I think Mitchell Marsh is a huge talent for Australia, but saying he has the 2nd best technique in the country? Thats a bit over the top IMO, I mean how many games have you actually seen him play? because he has only played a few for the Warriors plus for the U19's, is still very young to.

Too much talk on techniques IMO.
I'm not a person to talk too much about technique (Hughes fan :happy:).

But Ferguson doesn't really have a technique, in the ODIs he just sees the ball and hits it, no certain method or style to his approach. Which might be a good thing for LOI but for Tests I am not so sure.

White has not made any runs outside of Victoria which suggests that he is not suited for batting in tougher or different conditions.
 

NUFAN

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Tum Tum, White has made a stack of runs in English conditions, playing County Cricket.
 

Kylez

State Vice-Captain
Tum Tum, White has made a stack of runs in English conditions, playing County Cricket.
This.

I don't agree with what you said about Ferguson, I think he has a decent technique and stylish strokes :p, from What I've seen on TV. Uses his feet to the spinners aswell.

We are entitled to our opinion though. :)
 

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Tum Tum, White has made a stack of runs in English conditions, playing County Cricket.
Averaging mid-60's at last count with, I think, at least one big double ton.

Have no idea what the specific problem with with Ferguson's technique either. He used to be somewhat vulnerable to balls seaming back into him early in his knocks but last I saw, didn't see a lot wrong. Probably hasn't been fully tested at international level on the back-foot, though.
 

pasag

RTDAS
Don't rate White at the longer form either. I'm happy to see him given a try but every time I've seen him play domestically I've been unimpressed and the second conditions become tough he'll be goneskis. Certainly not what Australia needs right now with our collapse tendencies.
 

Matt79

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I don't think White is the next Ponting, or even the next Martyn, but who's likely to be better?
 

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