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Group F (Super 8) - Sri Lanka, Australia, India, West Indies

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
You just have to look at Sharma compared to Pandey and know Sharma has a lot more potential. Whether he makes use of it is another thing, but I know who has the better technique, on whatever track.

Raina and Yusuf have got the nod ahead of Rohit over the last few years because they've scored the runs... but they've scored them on sub-continental tracks for the most part. But the fact is, Raina hasn't done anything really to be dropped yet, and Yusuf Pathan is Yusuf Pathan. Should play every T20 India play.

I don't blame India for giving Rohit an ego-check, he was getting a bit ****y for his boots. But the time is coming for him to be a mainstay. I'd play him ahead of Karthik everyday anyway, and I said that before the SA game
As for Karthik ,him getting in as a batsmen only is not warranted for me as he is the least likely to be a matchwinner on his own,when u have so many others.
Not sure about that.

There is something about Pandey that says to me will be a star. He has a pretty good technique too on pitches where the ball comes on ,like he showed in South Africa.
A bit like Sharma he also struggles on slower pitches where the likes of Raina and Pathan come to the fore. Rate both Pandey and Sharma in the long term ahead of Kohli though.


Do not think India ever wanted to give Rohit a Ego-Check or his ego is as big as Kohli's.or even Yuvraj's ,who if anything needs to be given a ego-check and a reality check.
It was just the fact he was failing miserably whenever given the oppurtunity. Raina ,Pathan and even Karthik scored more runs than him and were more consisitent.He Used to get a good looking start in most matches and then give it away softly most times when the ball did not come to the bat quick enough.
And still though having said that this could be the making of him ,i would not be surprised if in the next 2 matches he gives it away again,specially if played on slower wickets.
 
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Xuhaib

International Coach
is it me or Rohit has a lot of Inzi in him quality player but that was also a quality thrashing.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Not sure about that.

There is something about Pandey that says to me will be a star. He has a pretty good technique too on pitches where the ball comes on ,like he showed in South Africa.
A bit like Sharma he also struggles on slower pitches where the likes of Raina and Pathan come to the fore. Rate both Pandey and Sharma in the long term ahead of Kohli though.


Do not think India ever wanted to give Rohit a Ego-Check or his ego is as big as Kohli's.or even Yuvraj's ,who if anything needs to be given a ego-check and a reality check.
It was just the fact he was failing miserably whenever given the oppurtunity. Raina ,Pathan and even Karthik scored more runs than him and were more consisitent.He Used to get a good looking start in most matches and then give it away softly most times when the ball did not come to the bat quick enough.
And still though having said that this could be the making of him ,i would not be surprised if in the next 2 matches he gives it away again,specially if played on slower wickets.
Didn't Rohit come out and say his hero was Yuvraj?

Surely has to have an ego then :p

But seriously, Pandey looked at sea when the ball started to move in this IPL. No footwork at all. You can only get away with that if you're very very talented.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
So what was the point of giving Zaheer and Nehra strike against Tait? Sharma was succesfully hitting 6s and 4s.
Agreed .
Strange decsion.

That is where Sharma struggles a bit.When he should be demanding attention and initiative he often is willing to give it away.Not only in terms of giving away the strike ,but also when he is batting.
If he could improve this mental ability and become a bit like kohli who even refused to give intitiative to Pietersen in his mental attitude(though not as brash as kolhi) he will be immense. Though there still is a meekness about him which sometimes is his downfall.
 

Ilovecric

U19 Cricketer
Lets see what roach and taylor can do, I can't remember the last time I saw taylor playing, I miss him so much because I think he is a smart bowler who can extremely deadly at times.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
Reckon' they should give Rohit a chance with the ball, can't do worse than Jadeja in T20s and has a hat-trick in the IPL.
 

Sir Alex

Banned
Good Call.

Have to be honest I have been not really a fan of Rohit Sharma , always felt he was mentally not there.But this innings could be the making of him as The innings at brisbane in the ODI was the making of Gambhit into a establisher player in the Indian team.

But still have two doubts about him 1) His ability to covert good looking starts into real big scores and his ability on slower pitches where there is less bounce than this and the bowl is slower.I have no doubt he would be a more consistent batsmen if Australia was his home country.

Have to say on this type of Pitch which was bouncy and had a bit of zip against the fast bowlers,the RCB duo of Pandey and Kohli would have been useful.Maybe even Uthappa.

Pandey like Sharma did better in the last IPL on SAFFER bouncy wickets than in India.
Thanks mate.

I think Rohit has become quite a final product when it comes to T20s. He performed well in IPL in India and has shown he can handle the short stuff, which means he's got the technique to play virtually everywhere.

But that said, he's prone to brain explosions which is why he hasn't been able to make it in one days so far. Hopefully, he'll improve his temperament with a season or two of first class. We also need him to be mentored well.

I agree about Pandey but not convinced about his batting form. But totally agree that Uthappa should be there. I think we didn't read the pitches we would be playing well. Going in to this pitch with just 2 pacers was a terrible move, especially considring it's a small ground.
 

Sir Alex

Banned
@Jono, I am not still bought on the idea that Useless Pathan is suited for playing International t20s. He's the kind of player who can start hitting spin from the start but always need some time against pace. Plus on non subcontinental tracks he is poo whenever the ball goes above his waist. He admitted it was a shortcoming in his technique, which is welcome, and vowed to rectify it after the IPL. But not convinced he's done that, although that's not something which can be corrected in a day or two.

He however should make the side whenever India are playing on subcontinental tracks. It's high time we adopted horses for courses attitude with our batsmen as well.
 

shivfan

Banned
Fletcher's glovework is waaaaaaay inferior to Ramdin's....
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Missed stumping, and then electing not to go for a high catch.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Mehela stranded on 98*. Gutted. Super, super knock tho. Chap's in the form of his life just now.

195/3 imposing total. Windies will do really well to get with 20 IMHO.
 

Lostman

State Captain
Mehela stranded on 98*. Gutted. Super, super knock tho. Chap's in the form of his life just now.
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SL's secret formula in limited over games.
Take a mediocre middle order batsmen in limited overs and stick him in the opening spot. Turns into the second coming of king viv.
Jayasuriya, Dilshan and now Jayawardena.

It all makes sense now why the team management had Mubarak opening the batting 2-3 yrs ago. The man was so hopeless it didn't help though.
 

Howsie

International Captain
Well this is easily one of the worst chases I've ever seen in a 20/20 game, some really awful batting it must be said.
 

mohammad16

U19 Captain
Thanks mate.

I think Rohit has become quite a final product when it comes to T20s. He performed well in IPL in India and has shown he can handle the short stuff, which means he's got the technique to play virtually everywhere.

But that said, he's prone to brain explosions which is why he hasn't been able to make it in one days so far. Hopefully, he'll improve his temperament with a season or two of first class. We also need him to be mentored well.

I agree about Pandey but not convinced about his batting form. But totally agree that Uthappa should be there. I think we didn't read the pitches we would be playing well. Going in to this pitch with just 2 pacers was a terrible move, especially considring it's a small ground.
LMAO at Uthappa should be there, no he shouldnt.... He would get owned with quick short balls aswell. He uses a heavy bat good for straight hitting. Dont cite some of his IPL pulls as an example, he wouldnt last more than 3 balls in conditions today against such quality bowling. Indians plain suck at playing the short ball, they are accustomed to murdering bowling on flat pitches.

I'd say the only player who is good at handling the short ball in India is Tendulkar, thats why its been a grave mistake to have not picked him early on in the first world cup.
 

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