The atmosphere in Cricket Chat - Suggestions & Discussion

[Furball]

Agree. Think that was one of my suggestions, and Volty said it before me now that I think on

Possibly. I haven't read through the entire thread.

 

[Sir Alex]

I am personally a moderator on another forum (albeit a movie discussions based one) and I've seen much worse posters than on this forum there. I fully can empathise with the moderators here but truth be told the "lack of discipline" here is a bit overrated. I personally love the odd stat wars and bickering but as long as the overall balance is kept it is okay.

But that said, I shall continue to report posts that I feel is detrimental to the forum atmosphere so I request the moderators to bear with me.

 

[Furball]

In this thread and the post count one, there's been a lot of talk about the treatment of newbies. Just a suggestion that I'm sure will be shot down for good reasons - but why not move the 'Introduce Yourself' thread from OT to here. My thinking is that a lot of people don't check out off-topic parts of a forum for a while, if they ever do at all (four_or_six said earlier in the thread that she never goes there, for example). If we have the thread in CC they can introduce themselves to everybody. It would probably also lead to other parts of the forum getting promoted by members, like if sledger or me saw someone say they were into wrestling in their intro post, we'd point them in the direction of the wrestling thread. If someone said they were into movies, Pratters could point them to the movie thread. Show people that we are welcoming and that there's plenty of reasons to come to the site even when there's no cricket talk of interest.

I'm sure there are some points against, but I sense that being more welcoming is the main thing we've all agreed on - why not have that welcome in the 'flagship' board?

I like this idea.

 

[SJS]

I've argued with mods in the past, not excessively, only one real instance of me doing so in a major way and I think it's fair to say that's all water under the bridge now. So I have to say I agree with those saying that people are disrespecting the mods a fair bit. In a thread on CC I have just read an isntance of someone basically saying to a mod, I don't think I've done anything wrong so I'm gonna carry on as I was, I'm guessing it's this that people are talking about?

I think constructive feedback to the mods is great and they don't always get it right but that is just disrespect and undermining them to the highest level. It's disappointing and makes for ugly thread-viewing. If you disagree that much, would it be a lot to ask to curb whatever you were doing in that thread anyway, and send the mod a PM or email?

Sorry if this is a bit vague, have seen a few instances but one has really got my back up as the mod in question was more than polite and reasonable, I don't want to breach the 'no pointing the finger' nature that has served this thread so well though.

I am sure the same thread for introduction of newbies could be made to appear in both CC and OT so that everyone has the chance to get to know the newbies when they do post there. I do not go to OT sometimes for months and dont remember when I last checked the newbies thread there. The same could become true for the posters who do not visit CC very often if we shifted the introduction thread here.

 

[Matt79]

Yeah, Gimh talkig sense.

 

[L Trumper]

I am personally a moderator on another forum (albeit a movie discussions based one) and I've seen much worse posters than on this forum there. I fully can empathise with the moderators here but truth be told the "lack of discipline" here is a bit overrated. I personally love the odd stat wars and bickering but as long as the overall balance is kept it is okay.

Stat wars are not odd, most of the time they are the only discussions in comparison threads.
Bickering is fine but some of the guys go over board and make achievements of game's greats into a mini statistical presentation just to prove their favorite player is better, which is sickening.

 

[Matt79]

Agree with GIMH re the intro thread, so I've gone ahead and created it myself :http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/45950-welcome-cricket-web-cricket-chat.html#post2169100

could mods stickyickyicky it pls?

 

[Turbinator]

I think it's perfectly fine tbh. It's just that India's not playing, so there's nothing worthwhile to talk about. Hence, threads like this are created to keep people busy.

 

[Sanz]

In this thread and the post count one, there's been a lot of talk about the treatment of newbies. Just a suggestion that I'm sure will be shot down for good reasons - but why not move the 'Introduce Yourself' thread from OT to here. My thinking is that a lot of people don't check out off-topic parts of a forum for a while, if they ever do at all (four_or_six said earlier in the thread that she never goes there, for example). If we have the thread in CC they can introduce themselves to everybody. It would probably also lead to other parts of the forum getting promoted by members, like if sledger or me saw someone say they were into wrestling in their intro post, we'd point them in the direction of the wrestling thread. If someone said they were into movies, Pratters could point them to the movie thread. Show people that we are welcoming and that there's plenty of reasons to come to the site even when there's no cricket talk of interest.

I'm sure there are some points against, but I sense that being more welcoming is the main thing we've all agreed on - why not have that welcome in the 'flagship' board?

Way to underplay a mighty fine suggestion.

 

[Jono]

Well played GIMH.

 

[GIMH]

Way to underplay a mighty fine suggestion.

Just a disclaimer

 

[Matt79]

Pfft, he talked. It was left to others to "do".

 

[Smudge]

I have noticed a lot more visible moderating in the last week or so, and pretty prompt at that too, so big ups to the moderators for getting in before trouble gets out of hand.

 

[Matt79]

Yeah, loving Jack's recent work.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah, loving Jack's recent work.

Agree..

 

[SJS]

Yeah, loving Jack's recent work.

Jack, if and when he is active, has probably the best temperament for a moderator. In face many posters could use him as a role model and we may not have any need for threads like this one

All members who want to be moderators (or those whose applications for the job have been rejected) might do well to look at Jack and ask themselves how they compare with him

PS : This is purely a personal opinion

 

[SJS]

On the subject of moderation. I really like it when an out of turn sentence is used and a moderator is on hand who notices it and immediately pips in with something like....

"That was completely unnecessary. Please refrain in future."

This leads me to a few thoughts.

1. Such a comment from a moderator (unless the moderator has made a gross mistake and the guys were, lets say, just having fun amongst them) lead to an immediate "cessation to hostilities" by the poster/s concerned. No more discussion/argument with the moderator on this subject should be tolerated. The posters concerned can come back with, "Sorry it was a slip" OR "My apologies, it wont be repeated" OR "Noted for future" - anything appropriate and move on . But no more arguing about it and NO CONTINUATION OF HOSTILITIES by either party.

2. In case the moderator has made a mistake, it can be pointed out in very polite language. Pointing out goes not mean providing a justification like "he started it". If there is a strong disagreement with the moderation an off line message can be used but nothing more online.

This can be our (non-moderating posters) greatest contribution to maintaining discipline here.

3. This kind of intervention by a moderator can be effective only if it is done very quickly. Unfortunately that is not always feasible for obvious reasons. Hence it becomes important for other posters who come across this to politely point it out. I do not see any thing wrong with a poster who is not in the discussion saying something like, "That bit was completely unnecessary. You can do without it." and should not get a response like "Get lost. It is none of your business". In fact, such a response to a polite suggestion should be considered a further transgression by the 'offending' poster.​

Ideally, the poster at who the offensive remark is aimed should point it out as I noticed a poster doing just a few hours ago to great effect. That, of course would be the best kind of 'self-discipline' we can exercise.

• Writing offensive posts/using offensive language is bad.
• Responding to it in kind is equally bad and does not somehow become justifiable since it was a response.
• Pointing out someone's offensive language can and should be done politely.
• Doing so in a case where you are not a party to the argument is not inappropriate.
• Use the "red triangle" more often. All of us (myself included) are guilty of it.

Lets stop criticising the moderators and start doing more as ordinary members.

In fact, I have NEVER used the red triangle as far as I remember. Nor have I used the options I have suggested above. I have found the ignore option the best for me and it works. But I was wrong and took the soft and easy option

I have 37 people on my ignore list as of now. As soon as I have submitted this post I intend to reduce that figure to zero and follow my own advise

 

[Uppercut]

37? Make them into a sporcle quiz. It would be fabulously fun.

I like the idea of the introduce yourself thread being moved to CC. I'd also suggest something about common abbreviations being stickied, there are a few that are almost unique to CW. Makes the whole place more accessible.

 

[Nate]

dwta

 

[Flem274*]

37 people on ignore? Wow, thats a fair few.

Am I one?