Sehwag - Best Batsman In World Cricket Right Now

[Cevno]

I kinda agree with Ben here. Pietersen averaging 50+ (is it?) in 10 tests with Warne and McGrath in the attack is a very impressive feat. It's kinda like doing that against the WIndies pace attack in the 80s. Very rare and hard to do.

Sehwag also averages 50 + against Mcgrath and Warne.

 

[Richard]

Yeah but that does not stop them destroying a whole number of threads

What doesn't stop them? It's posters that are "destroying" (a slightly exaggerated term that BTW) threads, not Cricket Chat. Cricket Chat is what is suffering, not what is at fault for the suffering. A far more appropriate thing for ss to have said would be "God I hate some of the posters we have in CC currently, and I've hated some similar ones in the past".

this one is now a write off.

TBH, as our old friend Matt Currie once said "best ____ right now - that thread could be made any time at all, it has no significance". I don't think it was ever going to go all that far TBF.

 

[HMas]

What is Sehwag average in SA,NZ & Eng??

 

[GIMH]

fmd, why does every thread end up like this?

Agree soooooooooooo much. Can't believe I skimmed through this thread and found the same KP argument briefly participated in earlier today in a different thread making an appearance...

It's absolutely unreadable and furthers claims that Avada Kedavra = Sir Alex = Precam.

hang on a minute

 

[Faisal1985]

i would put Amla up there too..............

 

[GIMH]

Eoin Morgan IMO

 

[Debris]

Sehwag has too many problems against the seaming ball for me to agree. Maybe best batsman under sub-continental conditions.

 

[jeevan]

Averages similar to Tendulkar in South Africa, tbh.

Right, don't let facts get in the way.
Ponting in Ind averages 21
Sachin in SA averages 40

 

[wfdu_ben91]

Facing spin is the best time to bat outside subcontinent, so the challenge from faster men is over. But in SC playing spin needs getting your eye in. Hence why KPs record in SC is more realistic

Yeah, and teams stack their attack with pace bowlers and the odd spinner. It's only on the rare occasion where there are more spinners then seamers playing. Teams never go in with a full fledged spinning attack.

Right, don't let facts get in the way.
Ponting in Ind averages 21
Sachin in SA averages 40

When did the subcontinent only become India?

Oh man, I hate CC so much sometimes.

This.

Someone please, please think of the ****ing children.

He is universally considered to be the best #7 and the best wicketkeeper-batsman of all time.....what more do you want more from people?

And we're talking about right now, who is the best in form and the best in the world.

Jesus, not every thread is an attack on your pet favorite player. Anyway, hard to argue against average of 70 with an S/R of 101.

Don't blame the forum for the inadequacies of a tiny handful of posters.

As bad as saying "Australia is racist" because of the fact that a shamelss vocal minority of Australians are.

Yeah but that does not stop them destroying a whole number of threads, this one is now a write off.

What doesn't stop them? It's posters that are "destroying" (a slightly exaggerated term that BTW) threads, not Cricket Chat. Cricket Chat is what is suffering, not what is at fault for the suffering. A far more appropriate thing for ss to have said would be "God I hate some of the posters we have in CC currently, and I've hated some similar ones in the past".

TBH, as our old friend Matt Currie once said "best ____ right now - that thread could be made any time at all, it has no significance". I don't think it was ever going to go all that far TBF.

FFS there are some whingers on here and of all things, whinging about a cricket arguement on a cricket discussion thread. Why don't we just start hanging people for breathing?

 

[Pothas]

It is not so much a discussion, more a travesty of verbal diarrhea and so called ‘statistical analysis’

 

[jeevan]

^ My bad. Got caught up in the usual Sachin-Ponting routine

 

[silentstriker]

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[silentstriker]

When did the subcontinent only become India?

Subcontinent is not a country. That's like taking Sachin's average in all places 'East of Mumbai'.

 

[Richard]

FFS there are some whingers on here and of all things, whinging about a cricket arguement on a cricket discussion thread. Why don't we just start hanging people for breathing?

Whinging about idiotic style discussions, more like. Granted, it's not quite as bad as the utterly-irrelevant KaZoH0lic-C_C stuff from back in t'day, but it's still crap, and the sort of thing virtually no-one wants to read. Once it isn't a problem, but when it's recurring, it's something that drives people away from CC, and with the greatest respect, if it's a choice between having said posters who're driven away or you and those who you pick the fights with, virtually everyone who'll stick around will choose the former.

 

[wfdu_ben91]

Whinging about idiotic style discussions, more like. Granted, it's not quite as bad as the utterly-irrelevant KaZoH0lic-C_C stuff from back in t'day, but it's still crap, and the sort of thing virtually no-one wants to read. Once it isn't a problem, but when it's recurring, it's something that drives people away from CC, and with the greatest respect, if it's a choice between having said posters who're driven away or you and those who you pick the fights with, virtually everyone who'll stick around will choose the former.

TBH, I'd rather read an intense arguement, with those involved having venom behind their words and believing in what they say then the boring old tea party stuff. And FTR, I didn't pick a fight, I voiced my opinion and was attacked.

 

[Richard]

There's no point saying what you say if you don't believe it \ believe in it. However, there's equally little point in being deliberately antagonistic, which, well, anyone seriously suggesting you aren't will be laughed off. It has no place on CW - there is even stipulation somewhere that CW is a place to discuss things "in a fun and friendly atmosphere". People have received bans, and will continue to do, for posting in an antagonistic manner and disturbing the desired forum atmopshere.

 

[wfdu_ben91]

There's no point saying what you say if you don't believe it \ believe in it. However, there's equally little point in being deliberately antagonistic, which, well, anyone seriously suggesting you aren't will be laughed off. It has no place on CW - there is even stipulation somewhere that CW is a place to discuss things "in a fun and friendly atmosphere". People have received bans, and will continue to do, for posting in an antagonistic manner and disturbing the desired forum atmopshere.

Deliberately? I strongly disagree with the notion that Sehwag is the best batsman in the world. Maybe in the subcontinent, but not in the world. I haven't verbally attacked anyone and argued in what I believe in.

Tell me, what is wrong with these several posts below?

Gilly did the same thing at his peak, why isn't he mentioned in the same breathe as Tendulkar, Ponting and co for his batting alone?

New ball / Pressure/ triple hundreds etc.

Facing the new ball in the subcontinent is the best time to bat and Gilchrist had the pressure of also being a wicketkeeper.

How many 300s does Gilchrist have? What is his batting average again?
Not trying to put him down by any means..Gilly is one of my favourites too..but you cant place someone who averages 47 (not that it is not an acheivement) with someone who averages 52 plus.

He has not made his runs only in subcontinent. Also there is little statistical proof to back that argument.

Gilly averaged 52 after the same amount of matches with a higher strike-rate. At one point, Gilly had played 46 matches, was averaging 61 and had a strike-rate of 83.


5 hundreds outside the subcontient, averaging a decent but not great 41. Easier to Open in the subcontinent, because it's favours spin bowling, not pace bowling and the new ball slides onto the bat nicely, and with the slowness of the pitches not really causing class batsman much trouble.

No animosity, no insults - Friendly, honest discussion which you are suggesting. I disagreed, but I didn't arrogantly voice it but yet, these sort've posts lead to a post like this below...

fmd, why does every thread end up like this?

Of course things changed when Avada Kedavra involved himself and more then less aggressively attacked my point of view. But I'm the bad guy, right?

 

[Pothas]

No just fairly dull

 

[pasag]

Deliberately? I strongly disagree with the notion that Sehwag is the best batsman in the world. Maybe in the subcontinent, but not in the world. I haven't verbally attacked anyone and argued in what I believe in.

Tell me, what is wrong with these several posts below?













No animosity, no insults - Friendly, honest discussion which you are suggesting. I disagreed, but I didn't arrogantly voice it but yet, these sort've posts lead to a post like this below...


Of course things changed when Avada Kedavra involved himself and more then less aggressively attacked my point of view. But I'm the bad guy, right?

Because it's a ridiculous trend in CC right now that every thread gets derailed into a player vs Australian argument. It's one thing if it's in a context of the thread topic, but this asks for who is the best batsmen right now, so what do we get? An argument of who is better, Gilchrist or Sehwag. How Gilchrist gets dragged into this **** is honestly beyond me and it's the ****ing tedious.

On topic - Sehwag vs AB vs Clarke's performance over the past few years
Off topic - Sehwag vs random retired Australian ****fest.

 

[ret]

If I am selecting a test batsman now, Sehwag would be my first choice