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Sehwag - Best Batsman In World Cricket Right Now

Black_Warrior

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
How many 300s does Gilchrist have? What is his batting average again?
Not trying to put him down by any means..Gilly is one of my favourites too..but you cant place someone who averages 47 (not that it is not an acheivement) with someone who averages 52 plus.
 
wfdu_ben91

wfdu_ben91

International 12th Man
Black_Warrior said:
How many 300s does Gilchrist have? What is his batting average again?
Not trying to put him down by any means..Gilly is one of my favourites too..but you cant place someone who averages 47 (not that it is not an acheivement) with someone who averages 52 plus.
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Gilly averaged 52 after the same amount of matches with a higher strike-rate. At one point, Gilly had played 46 matches, was averaging 61 and had a strike-rate of 83.

Sir Alex said:
He has not made his runs only in subcontinent. Also there is little statistical proof to back that argument.
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5 hundreds outside the subcontient, averaging a decent but not great 41. Easier to Open in the subcontinent, because it's favours spin bowling, not pace bowling and the new ball slides onto the bat nicely, and with the slowness of the pitches not really causing class batsman much trouble.
 
Sir Alex

Sir Alex

Banned
wfdu_ben91 said:
Gilly averaged 52 after the same amount of matches with a higher strike-rate. At one point, Gilly had played 46 matches, was averaging 61 and had a strike-rate of 83.


5 hundreds outside the subcontient, averaging a decent but not great 41. Easier to Open in the subcontinent, because it's favours spin bowling, not pace bowling and the new ball slides onto the bat nicely, and with the slowness of the pitches not really causing class batsman much trouble.
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Yet somehow I can't recollect any visting opener of late plundering in the subcontinent. Could you please help? (Hayden did it in 2001, I know thanks)
 
wfdu_ben91

wfdu_ben91

International 12th Man
Sir Alex said:
Yet somehow I can't recollect any visting opener of late plundering in the subcontinent. Could you please help? (Hayden did it in 2001, I know thanks)
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Can't recall any decent opener averaging single-figures in the subcontinent like Sehwag did in South Africa 2006 either. Most decent openers that have entered the subcontinent have found seeing off the new ball relatively easy, but have fallen pray the spinners. Hence why so many have averaged 35-45 and less have averaged 50+. No doubting Sehwag is a good player of spin, but he grew up playing on those surfaces and has his eye in well and truly before the spinners come into play.
 
Avada Kedavra

Avada Kedavra

Banned
wfdu_ben91 said:
Can't recall any decent opener averaging single-figures in the subcontinent like Sehwag did in South Africa 2006 either. Most decent openers that have entered the subcontinent have found seeing off the new ball relatively easy, but have fallen pray the spinners. Hence why so many have averaged 35-45 and less have averaged 50+. No doubting Sehwag is a good player of spin, but he grew up playing on those surfaces and has his eye in well and truly before the spinners come into play.
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Funnily enough Sehwag scored a century on debut against SA in 2001 against a much better attack than the one he faced in 2006.He was just going through a bad patch at that point.SA were bowled out for 70 in the first test in that tour....just because KP is rubbish in the subcontinent doesn't mean that it be discounted 8-)
 
wfdu_ben91

wfdu_ben91

International 12th Man
Avada Kedavra said:
Funnily enough Sehwag scored a century on debut against SA in 2001 against a much better attack than the one he faced in 2006.He was just going through a bad patch at that point.SA were bowled out for 70 in the first test in that tour....just because KP is rubbish in the subcontinent doesn't mean that it be discounted 8-)
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No real difference in the attacks. Sehwag just got found out because he was opening in 2006 and not in 2001.
 
Sir Alex

Sir Alex

Banned
wfdu_ben91 said:
Can't recall any decent opener averaging single-figures in the subcontinent like Sehwag did in South Africa 2006 either. Most decent openers that have entered the subcontinent have found seeing off the new ball relatively easy, but have fallen pray the spinners. Hence why so many have averaged 35-45 and less have averaged 50+. No doubting Sehwag is a good player of spin, but he grew up playing on those surfaces and has his eye in well and truly before the spinners come into play.
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So to average 53, Sehwag must be not only seeing off the new ball well, but also palying the older one also better and against spinners right? That makes him one hell of an opening batsman to have in the team, doesn it?
 
wfdu_ben91

wfdu_ben91

International 12th Man
Sir Alex said:
So to average 53, Sehwag must be not only seeing off the new ball well, but also palying the older one also better and against spinners right? That makes him one hell of an opening batsman to have in the team, doesn it?
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Yeah, and facing the new ball is the best time to bat in the subcontinent, so that when the spinners come on (which is the challenge), he already has his eye in. Hence why Sehwag's record outside the subcontinent is more realistic.
 
Sir Alex

Sir Alex

Banned
wfdu_ben91 said:
Yeah, and facing the new ball is the best time to bat in the subcontinent, so that when the spinners come on (which is the challenge), he already has his eye in. Hence why Sehwag's record outside the subcontinent is more realistic.
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How is it more realistic? If he is such a force at home, and as you have conceded is athe best palyer at home, where India plays about 50% of matches, I'd take such a player than one who is **** at home but does well in swinging conditions where perhaps we alpy 1-2% of our matches
 
wfdu_ben91

wfdu_ben91

International 12th Man
Sir Alex said:
How is it more realistic? If he is such a force at home, and as you have conceded is athe best palyer at home, where India plays about 50% of matches, I'd take such a player than one who is **** at home but does well in swinging conditions where perhaps we alpy 1-2% of our matches
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That's fair enough, but it doesn't mean his the best in the world or that he is amongst the likes of Sachin, Punter, Lara, Kallis, Dravid or Hayden.
 
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