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WindieWeathers

WindieWeathers

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I just happen to like seeing players who can BENEFIT US LONG TERM instead of just playing one game and that's it, i mentioned four players, not just Khan, but anyway we won't agree on this subject so i guess that's case closed, lets see how the guys play against the Aussies tonight.
 
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SeamUp

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
I won't focus on the others, because this is the one that intrigues me the most...

You really think Pollard can/should displace Bravo in the team? Surely at best they should play alongside each other.
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The thing is if you play him along side Dw Bravo, Bravo will have to bat 5 and Pollard 6 because Pollards bowling is not good enough to play as the number 8.

I don't enjoy the bits and pieces selections like Pollard, Sammy, W.Hinds, R.Hinds and Dw Smith. If Pollard plays he has to have greater responsibilty with the bat.
 
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SeamUp said:
The thing is if you play him along side Dw Bravo, Bravo will have to bat 5 and Pollard 6 because Pollards bowling is not good enough to play as the number 8.

I don't enjoy the bits and pieces selections like Pollard, Sammy, W.Hinds, R.Hinds and Dw Smith. If Pollard plays he has to have greater responsibilty with the bat.
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I agree with all of this. Pollard has to contribute at least a 30 average to be worth selection. However, I don't consider Wavell Hinds a bits-and-pieces player. He's a batsman who can bowl a little, and has been selected for this tour due to a distinct lack of experience/quality. When 5 of your best 6 players are injured, you want some experience in the ranks. Especially when that player has a good record against Australia.
 
SeamUp

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
I agree with all of this. Pollard has to contribute at least a 30 average to be worth selection. However, I don't consider Wavell Hinds a bits-and-pieces player. He's a batsman who can bowl a little, and has been selected for this tour due to a distinct lack of experience/quality. When 5 of your best 6 players are injured, you want some experience in the ranks. Especially when that player has a good record against Australia.
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Sure thats why I'm really disappointed with all the injuries or non-selections.

Is Darren Bravo injured or not selected?? I see a lot of ability in him just like Barath and Brathwaite.

I remember W. Hinds used to be a pure opener and then all of sudden was put lower and lower down the order and they forced him almost into an all-rounder or am I wrong.
 
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SeamUp said:
Sure thats why I'm really disappointed with all the injuries or non-selections.

Is Darren Bravo injured or not selected?? I see a lot of ability in him just like Barath and Brathwaite.

I remember W. Hinds used to be a pure opener and then all of sudden was put lower and lower down the order and they forced him almost into an all-rounder or am I wrong.
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He's injured. Though I don't think he and Brathwaite are ready for international cricket. They'll both be featuring within the next two years though, with the former likely to be back in the ODI team as soon as he's fit.

Wavell Hinds was an opener who bowled some the last time he played for West Indies. He dropped from the team and retired to play County Cricket. But he's obviously returned from retirement at the perfect time, from his perspective.
 
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He's injured. Though I don't think he and Brathwaite are ready for international cricket. They'll both be featuring within the next two years though, with the former likely to be back in the ODI team as soon as he's fit.

Wavell Hinds was an opener who bowled some the last time he played for West Indies. He dropped from the team and retired to play County Cricket. But he's obviously returned from retirement at the perfect time, from his perspective.
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I agree re- Brathwaite.

Cheers thanks for the info I'm going to follow the series,hopefully the Windies can surprise 1 or 2 people with the depleted squad.
 
ret

ret

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If all West Indies' players were fit, their starting line-up would most likely include Bravo, Chanderpaul, Sarwan, Jerome Taylor, Adrian Barath, and possibly Fidel Edwards and Sulieman Benn. None of those seven are fit. It means opportunities for several fresher faces.
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If most of those guys were playing, along with Gayle, Roach and Pollard, then that would have made it a good side as we can see below:

Batsmen: Gayle, C'paul, Sarwan
All-rounders: Bravo, Pollard, D Smith
Bowlers: Roach, Edwards, Taylor, Barath/Benn
WK: Ramdin

^ that's an explosive side. Hopefully most of them would be fit otherwise it would be a mixed bag with team mostly relying on Gayle, Smith and Roach, and hoping that some of the new comers come good
 
roseboy64

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WindieWeathers said:
There's no evidence to suggest Khan can't play ODI'S so i don't think there was anything wrong with me putting his name forward based on the good form he's showing right now, Deonarine hasn't played a huge amount ODI'S but i don't think he'll have any problems.
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Khan has never played an OD game at domestic level. Not one. As far as we know he can only play the longer version. If T&T think he's unfit for the short form I don't know why you think the WI should try him.
 
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You should read the Gibson thread, Xavier. There was an active discussion with statements that Miller was a Test failure. And that Deonarine is better because he's taken more wickets and troubled the batsmen more. I checked it today to make sure I'm not going crazy, and yes, it's still there. Nothing was distorted.
 
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roseboy64

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I never said I agreed with him. I glossed over most of the thread though and picked up on certain things. If that's how he wants to see it, fair play to him.
 
Jarquis

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ret said:
If most of those guys were playing, along with Gayle, Roach and Pollard, then that would have made it a good side as we can see below:

Batsmen: Gayle, C'paul, Sarwan
All-rounders: Bravo, Pollard, D Smith
Bowlers: Roach, Edwards, Taylor, Barath/Benn
WK: Ramdin

^ that's an explosive side. Hopefully most of them would be fit otherwise it would be a mixed bag with team mostly relying on Gayle, Smith and Roach, and hoping that some of the new comers come good
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Pardon?
 
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