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Cricketweb's 5 most unfairly treated players

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BoyBrumby said:
It wasn't and when people dismiss Lee's efforts in 2005 it's usually a case of playing the figures and not the bowling, but even if, for the sake of argument, we allow that it was, calling it "a one-man show" is reductive criticism at its worst. It's the sort of argument that calls football "just 22 men chasing an inflated sphere round a grassy area"; it misses the point of the endeavour. Yes, Warne is only one man but he turned in a performance over 5 tests that bordered on the miraculous. He took 40 wickets, which is 18 more than anybody managed four years later. So when "one man" (who makes up a quarter of the Aussie attack) turns in such a performance it makes a pretty sizeable difference to the overall quality of the bowling in the series.
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I'm a fan of Lee's bowling that series, and it was certainly better than the figures suggest, but the output wasn't there. Got plenty of tip at times too. The only bowler of 2009 he was better than is Peter Siddle (who didn't exactly stink up the joint either).

Warne's bowling was beyond incredible, but comparing the Aussie bowling between the two series is still largely a choice between a world-class one-man attack and a solid all-round one.
 
Richard

Richard

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Burgey said:
True, though of course one of the coincidences might be the relative proximity of their respective birthdays.
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Not the case that all birthdates are similar; IIRR there's ~10 years between the birthdates of the eldest and youngest of the lot whose scoring all burst into bloom at the exact same time.
 
SJS

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It keeps changing. Its seasonal. :)

There is a season to criticise a player, say Afridi or Shoaib, and then after some months, the weather changes and the player suddenly comes into more good books than bad.

We can be quite fickle here at CW as befits the generation influenced by the fickle electronic media.
 
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Pothas

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No one really has any ill feeling towards Ravi though, I certainly have nothing against him, I find his failure rather amusing in a sympathetic kind of a way.
 
Flem274*

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Howsie said:
Broom, McGlashan, Davis, McCleanaghan, Sherlock.
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Broom: Weren't you one of the guys knocking him?

McGlashan: Everybody loves him

Davis: He never plays, we don't get much chance to say anything except "he's always injured and when he plays he doesn't go that well because he can never get a consistent run at FC level"

McClenaghan: I call bull****. Whilst me and PEWS (and Athlai on MSN, too wussy to voice it on CW :p) got stuck in and still think he has a lot to prove, there's a huge fan club of the guy here. Go read the start of the NZ domestic thread. Plus he came on here and seems a pretty cool guy, winning himself more friends. CW doesn't hate him.

Sherlock: The last time he was talked about was when matt52 said we should pick him if he can still bowl 150+ ages ago. Since then he's been dropped from CD and no ones really mentioned him. When finding CD bowlers to insult Mason, McClenaghan, Diamanti and Thommo are usually first in line.
 
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Flem274*

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Anyway, names I would chuck out are Ian Bell, Luke Wright, James Franklin and Jacob Oram.

And thats only two countries.
 
Howsie

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Flem274* said:
Broom: Weren't you one of the guys knocking him?

McGlashan: Everybody loves him

Davis: He never plays, we don't get much chance to say anything except "he's always injured and when he plays he doesn't go that well because he can never get a consistent run at FC level"

McClenaghan: I call bull****. Whilst me and PEWS (and Athlai on MSN, too wussy to voice it on CW :p) got stuck in and still think he has a lot to prove, there's a huge fan club of the guy here. Go read the start of the NZ domestic thread. Plus he came on here and seems a pretty cool guy, winning himself more friends. CW doesn't hate him.

Sherlock: The last time he was talked about was when matt52 said we should pick him if he can still bowl 150+ ages ago. Since then he's been dropped from CD and no ones really mentioned him. When finding CD bowlers to insult Mason, McClenaghan, Diamanti and Thommo are usually first in line.
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Broom? No way, love the guy. Reckon he should be batting at three and he should already be in the test team.

As for McCleanaghan when I first joined here everybody hated the guy (well maybe not hate but hated it when people mentioned his name as a possible BC).
 
Richard

Richard

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Flem274* said:
Anyway, names I would chuck out are Ian Bell, Luke Wright, James Franklin and Jacob Oram.
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Wright? :blink:

Confess I don't hang-out in the ultra-NZ circles enough to know what each and everyone tends to say about Oram and Franklin but Bell is only mistakenly interpreted as someone who doesn't know one end of a bat from the other by a small minority of CW. Most recognise him for what he is - a not-especially-good-but-far-from-dreadful Test batsman.
 
GIMH

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Luke Wright definitely unfairly treated. Averaged 52 in the championship last season yet people were up in arms at him being in the Test squad on the basis of the way he's played the shorter stuff.
 
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