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*Official* English Football Season 2009-2010

Ikki

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
cpr said:
I'll try, Since the Premiership began the British signings record has been broken by Utd a 4 times. (note, the British transfer record only 3 times, as Roy Keane wasnt actually a record transfer involving a british club, Gazza's sale to Lazio was £2m more, dont forget Platt and Waddle moved for more too

So first it was Keane in 94, for £3.75million, a figure all the big clubs were willing to pay, as Forest had offers from Blackburn, Arsenal and, oh, Liverpool. Turned out all clubs knew what an absolute bargain it'd be.....

Then it was Andy Cole for £7m in Jan 1995, a record that only lasted 6 months when Stan Collymore moved for £8.5m to, oh Liverpool

Then yeah we had a splurge 6 years later and signed both Veron and Ferdinand for stupid amounts, though in fairness, when you've won the title 3 years on the trot, a CL in that time, I think the team has earnt you some money to spend....
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You didn't read my post, did you? There are more transfer records than simply the british transfer record. You guys paid the most ever for a defender and a goalkeeper and neither were the british transfer record but just illuminates the ridiculous advantage you've guys had paying amounts few teams could compete with. And even when you're not breaking those records you're still close. Oh, you also broke the record for the highest transfer of a teenager.

The fact that you outbid several teams for Keane just goes to show even more how financially superior you were. And what does Stan Collymore have to do with Rafa Benitez? I am not talking about the duffers like Souness who ground the club into the dirt, we were discussing Rafa Benitez.
 
Ikki

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Saw the Arsenal game, a bit unlucky to lose like that. That Arshavin is pure class. Oh, that Johnson lad in Liverpool didn't do too badly either.
 
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GIMH

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Ikki said:
You didn't read my post, did you? There are more transfer records than simply the british transfer record. You guys paid the most ever for a defender and a goalkeeper and neither were the british transfer record but just illuminates the ridiculous advantage you've guys had paying amounts few teams could compete with. And even when you're not breaking those records you're still close. Oh, you also broke the record for the highest transfer of a teenager.

The fact that you outbid several teams for Keane just goes to show even more how financially superior you were. And what does Stan Collymore have to do with Rafa Benitez? I am not talking about the duffers like Souness who ground the club into the dirt, we were discussing Rafa Benitez.
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Roy Evans signed Collymore
 
duffer

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Was watching the game again today and van Persie is being asked a lot of by being the lone striker in the middle. He did an admirable job but I really wouldn't mind a guy like Chamakh who would do that particular donkey work and link up play a lot better from what I've seen. Robin can go back to his Holland position up front on the right with plenty of games to go around between Bentdner and Chamakh in the centre.

Seeing us being forced to choose between Ramsey, Wilshere and Merida when we were chasing the game late has actually warmed to the idea of signing him. Get it done Arsene.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Fiorentina made an official approach for Matthew Upson.

Be refreshing if Upson agrees to the move and why shouldn't he. They have Champions League football, he will be living in a beautiful city, enjoying an even more wonderful lifestyle and it's a completely new culture for him to experience.

More English footballers should be playing abroad.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
How long until a foreign player says he has always dreamed of playing for Citeh?

Chelsea's Yuri Zhirkov supported Blackburn Rovers as a boy. :)

Watched Elano last night on Turkish TV, different class.
 
Ikki

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
GeraintIsMyHero said:
Indeed, Torben Piechnik

Houllier spent more than him I'd have thought, mind you
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Not with 'Pool but Ali Dia. :laugh:

Not too sure. Do you mean in terms of pure pounds? Tomkins did a really in-depth analysis of the buys and how much they were and how high they were in comparison to the transfers of the time, etc, and IIRC it was Souness who did a lot of bad spending.
 
cpr

cpr

International Coach
Ikki said:
You didn't read my post, did you? There are more transfer records than simply the british transfer record. You guys paid the most ever for a defender and a goalkeeper and neither were the british transfer record but just illuminates the ridiculous advantage you've guys had paying amounts few teams could compete with. And even when you're not breaking those records you're still close. Oh, you also broke the record for the highest transfer of a teenager.

The fact that you outbid several teams for Keane just goes to show even more how financially superior you were. And what does Stan Collymore have to do with Rafa Benitez? I am not talking about the duffers like Souness who ground the club into the dirt, we were discussing Rafa Benitez.
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Yes, we broke the record for keepers, defenders etc. The point being by then we'd made a hell of a lot of money winning multiple leagues without those record signings......

We didnt outbid for Keane, he chose Utd over others once we matched their bids, slight difference.

And Stan Collymore has as much to do with Rafa as these other records were supposed to have broken, your whole argument is that we had superior financial power in the past which meant we've had a far superior squad when rafa came, Collymore is evidence that Liverpool could match our spending but not our performance, and Liverpool too could break records for transfersif they wanted too


The fact is, Rafa has spent money on middling players who havent improved the team, and thus you've failed to make much headway. For all you want to blame Utds spending powers on that, remember when Fergie started out he was in the same situation with Liverpool on top, he made some shrewd moves that turned out to be bargains. Players that served us for 10 years and more (unlike Rafa's who seemt to be in and out), and coupled it with some promising youngsters from the ranks (again, something Rafa's not been able to do)

Whinging about utds spending is only detracting away from Benitez's lack of skill in the transfer market
 
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