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Michael Hussey – Is his time up?

Pigeon

Banned
Unfortunately yo, you are doing a great in proving you don't see AUS cricket where you are. If you say that SA attack was mediocre, it pretty much even with the SA attack right now. The only difference with the two sides now is the SA have a better batting-lineup now.

SA 5-man attack of 2005/06 vs 2009:

Steyn currenty>Ntini at his peak
Pollock 2005/06=Ntini 2009 - Since both in these periods they where past their best
Nel 2005/06>>Morkel 2009
Kallis 2005=Kallis 2009
Harris>>Boje/Botha 2009
No.

Steyn currenty>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ntini at his peak (by light eons)
Pollock 2005/06=Ntini 2009 - Since both in these periods they where past their best (both are way off)
Nel 2005/06=<Morkel 2009 (Nel is quite overrated)
Kallis 2005=Kallis 2009 (Perhaps)
Harris>>Boje/Botha 2009 (By much more)

So that means every bowler in that squad is better than the 05/06 squad.

So comparatively the level of quality from the pace attacks are very close & Hussey did well then & in the MCG test on a difficult wicket, where he scored a brilliant hundred.
Against a weaker attack on easy pitch.

Again nonsense. You clearly dont watch AUS cricket where you are at. Hussey was not showing any signs of decline in the WI. It all started after that hundred in IND.
So what was his average in that series?
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
:Facepalm: Massive.

Well, should'nt be. But still will. They are hardly the 3rd best team in the world. SA and India have leapfrogged Aus in the last year, and perhaps SL is on the way.
AUS fast-bowling is better than SA. Right now technically SA only have Steyn has 100% test quality, since Nitni is being carried & Morkel has gone downhill ATM. Thier batting is even.

IND batting of course is 1st team is just as stong as SA & AUS. But the depth behind the first team is very patchy. Look at the situation with Dravid, if he was playing for AUS his test career would have been over.

No way is SRI on the way, they would always get spanked in AUS as the case was in 07/08. They are just going to be strong at home.

Aus's win in SA was kind of exception than the rule.
No. Rather its shows the inconsistency of the team since in the post McWarne era. They have yet to fully find their feet.

:They lost the one before. won against a weak NZ at home, and was thrashed in India.
AUS where always going to lose in IND last year given they had no quality spinner, so that wasn't a shock.

:Add to that ODI worries and you get the picture.
You mean injury woes that have affected the ODI team recently. AUS haven't played their best ODI team since WI 08. The ODI series in ENG will break this barren run. The ODI team has no worries.



::Facepalm: Massive.

He always had his outside off stump issues throughout his FC career. I am surprised you sermonise I don't know enough Aus FC cricket, and yet you don't know this.
What does his FC career have to do with his form from IND 08 to Ashes 09 that you claim, has made him poor & vulnerable to losing the captaincy?
 

Jakester1288

International Regular
Do you guys reckon his career depends on what he does with the bat tomorrow, or do you think he will be dropped regardless?
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
No.

Steyn currenty>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ntini at his peak (by light eons)
No way yo. You clearly under-rate how well Ntini was bowling at his peak. From WI 05 to PAK 07, he was averaging 23 - equal to Steyn current average.

Plus if you check Ntini stats from NZ 06 to PAK 07 he & Steyn where just about even as a lethal new-ball pair as SA began to rebuild. Its jsut that since PAK 07 Ntini has dropped off alot & SA have been carrying him, while Steyn has continued to hold his tremendous form.

Pollock 2005/06=Ntini 2009 - Since both in these periods they where past their best (both are way off)
Exactly. Both being way of shows how even the overall the bowling attacks where.

Nel 2005/06=<Morkel 2009 (Nel is quite overrated)
Nel is yea. But he was bowling at his best then, he was more dangerous to the AUS in the 6 test of 2005/06 than Morkel in 6 tests in 07/08. Morkel has be regressing since ENG 08, he to be is fastly becoming SA's Harmison IMO, he probably wont even start SA next test vs ENG.

Kallis 2005=Kallis 2009 (Perhaps)
They where. Kallis has been passed his peak as a bowler since about 2001 IMO, has his batting has goten better his bowler has lost its consistent spark. But of course if conditions suite he has always been capable of being dangerous in the odd test.

Harris>>Boje/Botha 2009 (By much more)
Boje, like Giles, Swann are average spinners who can have genuine roles on turning pitches. Boje does have a 5 wicket haul in in IND & SRI. He worked well in a 5-man attack the SA usually have.

The only reason Harris was better than Boje of 05/06 is because given the strenght
of SA bowling attack over the past 2 years, he has worked well in that attack. Overall Harris=Boje as a spinner.

So that means every bowler in that squad is better than the 05/06 squad.
No it was very even bowler vs bowler. It was made better than 05/06 because "team wise" thanks the stenght of SA batting right now - SA bowling has now has generally been able to dominant teams over the past 2-3 years.



Against a weaker attack on easy pitch.
Nonsense. Clearly you didn't watch that test match.



So what was his average in that series?
So what, he didn't look out of form in that series. He got some good balls vs WI. The stats wont tell you that. Thinking again, i would say the trott began vs SA isntead of after the hundred in IND. Since he thats when the technical faults really began to show & it has gotten worse.
 

inbox24

International Debutant
Do you guys reckon his career depends on what he does with the bat tomorrow, or do you think he will be dropped regardless?
Think it would be highly uncharacteristic of the selectors to drop him regardless. I reckon even if he gets 50 in this dig the selectors will want to retain him for the home summer.
 

slippyslip

U19 12th Man
Think it would be highly uncharacteristic of the selectors to drop him regardless. I reckon even if he gets 50 in this dig the selectors will want to retain him for the home summer.
Problem with that is that West Indies and Pakistan are touring. Neither side even pretends to care about test cricket anymore. It will be a 6-0 slaughter to Australia (although somehow both teams will be miraculously more competitive during the ODI series) and even 2nd grade cricketers from the Sydney comp will be able to score runs against these two sides in Australia.

When Australia has a tough series the problem will raise its head again.

Though I dont see Australia having a tough series until their tour of Sri Lanka in August 2011. Unless by some miracle England learn how to play in Australian conditions.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Thats just a stupid rating. AUS on paper & in depth still remains the best team in the world. As i said their ppor performances since 07/08 has mainly been due to poor selections & inconsistencies.
But surely if, as you claim, their depth is the best in the world, any "poor selections" wouldn't matter because it's utilising the wonderful depth?
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
I think Watson has a glaring deficiency also. He is so prone to missing deliveries that are hitting the stumps which is kind of a big problem, more so then Hughes problem against the short ball.

Actually just looking on Statsguru and Watson has been out LBW 8 times and Bowled 4 times in 17 innings, the stats don't lie, Watson has a 'glaring deficiency'.

You are right Jaques doesn't deserve a spot at the moment, but if he finds decent form for NSW I would be very tempted to bring him back into the Aus lineup.
This could effect Hussey's position in the team..

Who has the biggest deficiency?
Hughes vs short ball
Watson vs lbw prone.
 

dontcloseyoureyes

BARNES OUT
This could effect Hussey's position in the team..

Who has the biggest deficiency?
Hughes vs short ball
Watson vs lbw prone.
Would've used "vs. the ball that slides in". Your sentence makes no sense.

In regards to his deficiency, it's come around since he's remodelled his batting for T20 and ODI's with his step backwards and gets caught on the crease.
 

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