Leading Oz coaches refuse to teach doosra

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Doosra ruled un-Australian by coaches - Cricket - Sport - smh.com.au

Doesnt seem to matter what ICC says, these "experts" say that it is impossible to deliver it legally and so wont teach it

 

[Streetwise]

Someone has to make a stand against chucking.

 

[Andre]

Noble jesture, but can't help but think it will further handicap spin bowling in Australia - and ensure that batsmen don't get exposure to the delivery before international cricket.

IMO, they are spot on though - it's impossible to deliver it without chucking. Unfortunately, though, it ain't going away.

 

[chaminda_00]

How can they teach something in the first place, none of them know how to bowl?

 

[vic_orthdox]

How can they teach something in the first place, none of them know how to bowl?

Haha, exactly what I was going to say.

 

[pasag]

and ensure that batsmen don't get exposure to the delivery before international cricket.

Yeah, my biggest concern.

 

[Aritro]

Ill considered and sanctimonious nonsense.

It's amazing that a gathering of the top people at the national Academy have actually got together and effectively agreed to sabotage the country's prospects.

 

[four_or_six]

Whether all doosra's are throws or not, if they don't know how to coach it without teaching the bowler to throw it they certainly shouldn't do. Either don't teach it, or find a coach who can teach it legally.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Ill considered and sanctimonious nonsense.

It's amazing that a gathering of the top people at the national Academy have actually got together and effectively agreed to sabotage the country's prospects.

Everyone else is taking drugs. You might as well do so too, right?

 

[Fusion]

Everyone else is taking drugs. You might as well do so too, right?

Hadn’t realized that taking drugs was legalized by the ICC.

 

[duffer]

How can they teach something in the first place, none of them know how to bowl?

Heh, close thread.

 

[cover drive man]

Hate to sound ignorant here, but what is a doosra?

 

[Aritro]

Everyone else is taking drugs. You might as well do so too, right?

Pretty wayward analogy there.

If taking drugs was legal, not taking them was somehow detrimental to results, and you were put in charge of getting those results, then yes, you may as well do so.

 

[Richard]

Hate to sound ignorant here, but what is a doosra?

Effectively it's whatever each person defines it as. Unlike the Googly or the outswinger, it has no concrete definition.

The closest to something would be the fingerspinner's alternate delivery that turns in the opposite direction from the standard fingerspinner's break. But many insist on dubbing Murali's wrong-'un a Doosra as well, despite Murali being completely different to any other bowler so far to exist.

Either way, what a laughable thing for this set of coaches to do. "Ill-considered sanctimonious nonsense" just about sums it up. It is impossible for a delivery to be impossible to bowl legally, unless that delivery specifically involves straightening the elbow by more than 15 degrees. The Doosra is all about the wrist and fingers and if the elbow is forced straight in the course of the bowling action then it would indeed still be possible to bowl.

 

[Athlai]

Hate to sound ignorant here, but what is a doosra?

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[Migara]

How can they teach something in the first place, none of them know how to bowl?

Good one!

 

[Pigeon]

How can they teach something in the first place, none of them know how to bowl?

This.

 

[pup11]

How can they teach something in the first place, none of them know how to bowl?

Exactly...

To be very honest its mindset like this that has created such a lack of good spin bowlers in Australia, people like John Davison (FFS), are teaching spin bowling to aspiring spin bowlers.

Dean Jones recently said that CA should seriously think about hiring people like Saqlain and ask him to coach young Aussie spin bowlers, and that's definitely something that should be done, a lot of spin bowlers in Australia hardly know much about their trade, because most of them aren't being coached by the right people.

I think all these "spin mentors" really need to wake up and smell the coffee, they need to realise that's its year 2009, and every finger-spinner around the world is either bowling a doosra or trying to develop one, because since the pitches are flat like ****, they know they won't last long without having any variations.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Exactly...

To be very honest its mindset like this that has created such a lack of good spin bowlers in Australia, people like John Davison (FFS), are teaching spin bowling to aspiring spin bowlers.

Dean Jones recently said that CA should seriously think about hiring people like Saqlain and ask him to coach young Aussie spin bowlers, and that's definitely something that should be done, a lot of spin bowlers in Australia hardly know much about their trade, because most of them aren't being coached by the right people.

I think all these "spin mentors" really need to wake up and smell the coffee, they need to realise that's its year 2009, and every finger-spinner around the world is either bowling a doosra or trying to develop one, because since the pitches are flat like ****, they know they won't last long without having any variations.

Three spinners with the most test wickets in 2009? Swann, Shakib & Harris. All seem to be coping pretty well without one, then.

 

[Pigeon]

Three spinners with the most test wickets in 2009? Swann, Shakib & Harris. All seem to be coping pretty well without one, then.

Two of them being left armers and hence cannot bowl the doosra. The third one's presence denotes absence of cricket played by the usual suspects and the general deficiency of solid off spinners of late.