Victor Trumper - A Tribute

[archie mac]

Younger than you!

And your book collection already runs into the thousands, whereas mine is only in the hundreds - so I'm of greater need.

Well the kids atm seem much more interested in the Phantom collection, but I think that may change as they understand more about money, so give me your bank details and I will see what I can do

 

[archie mac]

This thread should be stickied.

If only we had a mod with the power

 

[SJS]

Asked for that didn't I !!!

No bowling in the nets

I still think it is wow.

But one can be disappointed. I remember when I first saw WG's film batting in the nets in his old age and the bowler seemed to be bowling only short pitched deliveries and WG just played it off his right foot in a disinterested manner and not vry beautiful to look at. It was only when I read MacLaren's account of WG's batting in his old age that I realised that he was, for some reason, not able to play very comfortably off the backfoot when he grew old and (except some late cutting) and waited for the ball to be pitched up to drive with relish. Unfortunately the bowler of those few deliveries in the nets while this film was being made did not know how to bowl a half volley in the nets - something our Test bowlers seem to do so well in the big games

I would love to see this film of Barnes though what one really wants to see of Barnes is the movement (both in the air and off it) that he managed and I doubt if he could manage that at 80 - incredible man though he was.

 

[fredfertang]

The Barnes film was shot by Jack Robertson in 1953, during the testimonial match played for him in Staffordshire. All the contemporary England players took part. The shot lasts only a few seconds, while, apparently, SFB, tall, reasonably high-armed and wearing a cap, wheels about five balls down to an unseen batsman, then lopes away.

 

[Dissector]

If one of the commenters is to be believed that's Trumper at the 50 second mark in this clip ; that part of the clip is unfortunately of very poor quality.

No cricket but this is an interesting clip of Trumper's funeral procession.

 

[SJS]

If one of the commenters is to be believed that's Trumper at the 50 second mark in this clip ; that part of the clip is unfortunately of very poor quality.

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There are some lovely moments of Hobbs's batting after that.

But the best was that it led to this clip. It has lovely driving of Hammond and square cutting of Hutton. GOLD !!

 

[SJS]

Here's another

You can recognise a shot each by Hammond, Woolley and Sutcliffe and there is a leg break being bowled by a legend - Don Bradman !

 

[Dissector]

So do you think that was Trumper?

I had actually started a thread on that gems of English cricket clip some time back and those clips of Hammond were exactly what caught my attention; such magnificent composure and authority in those drives.

 

[bagapath]

There are some lovely moments of Hobbs's batting after that.

But the best was that it led to this clip. It has lovely driving of Hammond and square cutting of Hutton. GOLD !!

wow! hammond sure gives it a real go. looks so elegant and powerful at the crease befitting the image i had in mind of the biggest cricketing star on plant earth in the 1930s second only to the don.

hutton's square cut is also so beautiful to watch. i have seen the video of his 364 and his tight batting technique makes it so obvious why he scored tons of runs either side of the war irrespective his physical disability.

no wonder these two guys are in the top 10 lists of every cricket fan. there is no way these guys would be anything less than champions if they were playing international cricket in this or any other era.

 

[SJS]

wow! hammond sure gives it a real go. looks so elegant and powerful at the crease befitting the image i had in mind of the biggest cricketing star on plant earth in the 1930s second only to the don.

hutton's square cut is also so beautiful to watch. i have seen the video of his 364 and his tight batting technique makes it so obvious why he scored tons of runs either side of the war irrespective his physical disability.

no wonder these two guys are in the top 10 lists of every cricket fan. there is no way these guys would be anything less than champions if they were playing international cricket in this or any other era.

Exactly. There is no way the cricketers after the end of the First World war can be termed inferior in technique, stroke play etc as far as the evolution of the game is concerned. Thus players from say Hammond, Bradman onwards can be considered at par with modern cricketers in this respect. Hobbs, of those who started his career before the first world war, continued till Bradman played and was very successful, rated absolutely at the very top. Thats why, I prefer, when making all time test sides, at least divide into three eras, 19th century, 1900 to 1914 and after 1920. These were three distict eras. The one in the middle being the median in more ways than one and the three giant batsmen who strode the three eras, in a way symbolise the evolution of the game with each providing a link between the earlier era and the next.

Thus Hobbs is our line between Grace and Bradman(Hammond) and the latter two are the link between the complete mastery of Hobbs and the domineering batsmenship of Sobers/Richards and Tendulkar.