Eclipse
International Debutant
That's funny because Ponting OWNED McGrath in Australian Domestic cricket and during the early period of his career his record against Akram, Donald etc was and still is better than Tendulkar and Lara'sI always think of Sobers onwards as the modern era, don't know why, just always have. Not too keen on cross era comparisons.
In no particular order
Top 10 Batsmen
Tendulkar
Lara
Sobers
Viv Richards
Graeme Pollock
Barry Richards
I think those 6 really are a cut above the rest, the other 4.
Gavaskar
Sangakkarra (hell it may be premature but I think he's super awesome!)
Dravid
Greg Chappell (why does he never get more recognition?)
As you might gather from my list I'm a big believer in technique. I also like lefties! Ponting didn't quite make it because I've always felt that many of the genuine quicks of the 80's and 90's would have been all over him, his mate Mcgrath would have too. Other Honourable mentions include S Waugh, Miandad, Hayden, Sehwag, Jayawardene, and Smith. They've all been left out due to either technical flaws or a lacking in all round performance. I think batting has significantly improved over the last 20 years, yeah sure the bats are a million times better and the pitches are more docile but I think that video technology has had a huge impact on ironing out players' techniques.
Top 10 quicks
1. Marshall, IMO the perfect quick, did it everywhere against everyone, adapted perfectly, had all the tricks. Shaun Pollock says that he learnt everything he knows about bowling from Marshall in just a 6 week (If memory serves) period.
The rest are in no particular order.
Ambrose (>Mcgrath IMO)
Akram
Younis (Probably my favourite ever bowler)
Holding
Donald
Mcgrath
Imran Khan
Hadlee
Steyn (Really! He's already done it nearly everywhere and against the very best)
Honourable Mentions: Lillee, I know most people will be scandalised by his exclusion but the fact that he played almost all his tests in Australia and England is something I hold against him a bit. I always think that performing as a quick in India is the hardest feat in test match cricket, so few have done it and many greats have failed.
Shane Bond, who knows what could have and probably would have been?
Shaun Pollock, didn't quite have the same pace as the rest but his record is still outstanding pretty much everywhere.
Probably missed loads of players but there you are.