Shootout in Lahore

[Uppercut]

So basically they're doing this for clear gummi bears?

Pretty much. That may seem senseless to you, but these are the guys who riot because someone draws a cartoon that implies they're not peaceful without a hint of irony.

 

[Xuhaib]

So basically they're doing this for clear gummi bears?

Imagine the choas that takes place in heaven when they discover it was just the gummi bears suicide bombings all around.

 

[Flem274*]

Let me get this right...

Mr Raza was injured badly, so Chris Broad jumped on him to stop him from being injured further.

My point is that I wouldn't be able to understand why you would risk your own life to save someone else, when if you did infact save their life by taking a bullet, you would be likely to be killed yourself.

Sorry, its ironic that you seem to have left wing/near socialist political views yet you're all for saving yourself instead of others, its awesome.

 

[Indipper]

So basically they're doing this for clear gummi bears?

In that case, Allah would truely be great.

 

[Jamee999]

So basically they're doing this for clear gummi bears?

That'll explain the congealed weapons...

(I'll show myself out)

 

[Fusion]

Lankans leave Pakistan; vow to visit again

LAHORE: Sri Lankan cricket team flew out of Pakistan on a specially chartered Airbus 320, cutting short their tour after a deadly attack on Tuesday, reported ARY OneWorld.

The team left for Colombo on a special chartered flight of Lanka Air from Lahore Airport.

Governor Punjab Salman Taseer, Chairman PCB Ijaz Butt, Captain Younus Khan and players from Pakistan Cricket team saw off the guest team.

Talking to Pakistani players before departure, Sri Lankan captain Mahela Jayawardane who was also hurt in the attack that leaves seven people dead and 18 others injured, vowed to come back again to play in Pakistan.

Jayawardane said that his team never hesitated in visiting Pakistan and will come back once the situation will be normalized.




The class and graciousness of the SL team and people continues to amaze me. No matter how much gratitude we express towards them, it will never be enough. I know that touring Pakistan again is simply not going to happen (nor do I want it to), the fact that Jayawardane would vow to return is just so classy.

 

[archie mac]

Have we heard whether they are cricket fans?

I know some will say who cares, but I know the people that blew up the London underground were cricket fans, one of them playing on the day of the act

I was just trying to understand their thinking, if they are not cricket fans then they may have been just trying to find the biggest news making story, but if they are cricket fans....

 

[Richard]

Have we heard whether they are cricket fans?

I know some will say who cares, but I know the people that blew up the London underground were cricket fans, one of them playing on the day of the act

And a plan to murder the England and Australia teams later that summer was vetoed in part because one of the proposed attackers was a cricket fan.

 

[nightprowler10]

My first thought after reading that was "are they nuts?!"

 

[archie mac]

And a plan to murder the England and Australia teams later that summer was vetoed in part because one of the proposed attackers was a cricket fan.

I did not know that, scary stuff

 

[Pratters]

Lankans leave Pakistan; vow to visit again

LAHORE: Sri Lankan cricket team flew out of Pakistan on a specially chartered Airbus 320, cutting short their tour after a deadly attack on Tuesday, reported ARY OneWorld.

The team left for Colombo on a special chartered flight of Lanka Air from Lahore Airport.

Governor Punjab Salman Taseer, Chairman PCB Ijaz Butt, Captain Younus Khan and players from Pakistan Cricket team saw off the guest team.

Talking to Pakistani players before departure, Sri Lankan captain Mahela Jayawardane who was also hurt in the attack that leaves seven people dead and 18 others injured, vowed to come back again to play in Pakistan.

Jayawardane said that his team never hesitated in visiting Pakistan and will come back once the situation will be normalized.




The class and graciousness of the SL team and people continues to amaze me. No matter how much gratitude we express towards them, it will never be enough. I know that touring Pakistan again is simply not going to happen (nor do I want it to), the fact that Jayawardane would vow to return is just so classy.

Yes it is a great gesture by Jayawardene to speak out on this issue like this. He has always come across as a captain with the right words considering the occasion (gracious in defeat in the world cup final in 2007 comes to mind as one such incident) and my respect for the man has increased 10 fold after this great gesture.

 

[Top_Cat]

As bad as things look, they could have been worse.

Asteroid plays chicken with Earth | smh.com.au

EDIT: This graphic is terrifying;

http://www.smh.com.au/world/emerging-taliban-may-be-culprits-20090303-8nh3.html

Classic military assault, supressing fire followed up by a couple of grenades that (thankfully) didn't blow. This could have been far, far worse. Looks like the Pakistani Police did a reasonable job too, considering the circumstances. A style of attack like this is incredibly difficult to counter.

 

[haroon510]

Reminds me of a funny story from my O'levels in early 2000's We had an Islamic teacher who dressed up in a typical Taliban manner (no! he had no guns) at our school. When you would ask him why he was such a staunch muslim he use to come up with crap stuff like 'when you die Allah will reward you with 70 beautiful virgins in heaven' ,like any mischievous teenagers we use to piss him by asking will they be hotter then Briana Banks or Jenna Jameson and all this crap

This use to really piss him off and he use to come up with statements that get on the right path or you will face Allah's wrath blah blah...and I saw quit a few guys getting influenced by him since that is indeed an impressionable age.

Now I am not saying he has turned in to a terrorist since last In heard he was working for KPMG in Kuwait and doing quite well for himself as he is a qualified CA.

Now my point is that sort of brain washing is so strongly embedded in Pakistan that even educated people can fall for this if you are unfortunate to get in contact with these guys so you can imagine the impact it has on the poor and illiterate a number which is increasing in Pakistan day by day.

couldn't agree more.. if you go back and look at how these terriorsts groups such as taliban came.. u will see this was the the main strategy that they used.. my couson was in the party of Izbe Islami who was/is run by Gulbeudeen Hikmatyar.. he used from the same tactics to attract these young immigrant afghans in to his group during Russian invasion back in 1980s in peshawar.. back then they were supported by pakistani government and U.S...

my couson went to their group and went to the war.. against Russians.. and after they defeat of Russians.. and when these groups (izbe islami and 6 other islamic groups) took over afghanistan from communist group..all those promises and what is wrong and right in islam.. was forgotten.. they start fighting against each other.. Gulbudeen was firing over 60 rockets per day in kabul city where innocent civillion lived.. it costed of 20 thousond afghans lives.. simply because afghanistan had a government that wasn't pashtoon and kabul city was a city full of none pashtoon ethnic groups..

my couson coudln't take it anymore..according to him this was contridctory to what islam tought him.. so he left the country with his family..that was back in 1996.. now he is in germany still religious... but doesn't share the same believe that many of these terriost groups are sharing.. infect he despise them..

 

[Burgey]

Hi Xuhaib

My heart goes out to cricket lovers from Pakistan.

I generally avoid commenting on contentious non-cricketing issues on CW but since you have written this, I am emboldened to write what I am about to. Please do not think of me as anything but an elder. I could very well be from your own family.

I talk to a lot of Pakistani men, mainly youngsters in my travels across the world. One comes across them and since we all lokk the same and speak the same language you always start talking and speaking in one's mother tongue in a foregin land always brings a sense of warmth and intimacy. I have invariably observed the following.

1. There is a very strong desire to convince me that all Pakistanis (or a majority anyway) are peace loving.
2. There is a denial of the presence of any major terrorist network in Pakistan.
3. In a very large number of cases there is a feeling or conviction that 9/11 was a conspiracy hatched in US.
4. If the talk ever veers around to terrorism across the world, there is an inclination to talk of the injustices in Paletine, Kashmir, Bosnia etc etc.

I am saying this not to paint streotypes my friend as you will soon see.

I understand how it feels to have the perspective that the whole world is looking at you with 'jaundiced' eyes. I am a Sikh and used to wear a turban at the time of the Punjab terrorism in India. I have seen the same look in the eyes of my countrymen towards Sikhs. I have seen Sikhs react in exactly the same way, talking of conspiracy theories and the injustices against Sikhs by the Congress and the Jan Sangh and so on. I know exactly how it feels and how we tend to react.

But that doesn't get us anywhere.

The Sikhs in Punjab had to decide that enough was enough. That the Sikh terrorists (and thats exactly what they were) were doing more harm to the Sikh community than could be imagined. That unless checked this could have long term consequences and the Sikh community, one of the most prosperous in India would lose all they had earned with their sweat and toil if this went on.

So the Sikhs of Punjab started co-operating with the police much more proactively, putting their lives at risk at the hands of the terrorists (and I admit at the hands of the police at times) but eventually Punjab waas rid of the problem. WE got back, nay earned back the respect of our countrymen which was always rightfully ours but had been denied for a decade due to the misdeeds of some of our co-religionists.

Were we, the normal law abiding Sikhs unfairly targetted? Maybe. But we were indirectly complicit to the extent that so many of us went into a reflex denial mode.

Pakistan needs to , colectively decide to fight this menace. Forget the hurt, stereotyping of Muslims by the world causes. Its a small hurt. The bigger problem lies elsewhere.

Take care

SJS shows in one post why his absence is always so keenly felt on CW.

 

[Top_Cat]

The problem, with respect to SJS's post, is that this isn't really an issue of religion or oppression but one of power. These guys are criminals and just like every crook, want money and power and they're getting it. Where's the motivation to change when, if not winning, at least they're not losing? The cause isn't hurt by their terrorist actions, only helped. I highly doubt the Pakistani government isn't ridding itself of Islamic fascism because it doesn't want to but because it's scared of the fight.

Overturn the gains they make by killing people and it'll be a start. This isn't an ideological fight of oppressed vs oppressor like NI, for example. As much as those involved will tell you otherwise. It's a power grab. It has multiple fronts and it involves not just military units but ordinary people fighting for the cause. Exponentially tougher to counter.

 

[zaremba]

Any chance of changing the title of this thread? Sorry to sound like a miserable old git, but "shootout" seems a bit flippant to me in the circs.

 

[Richard]

Yeah, thought that TBH, but didn't like to complain as Smith's title wording is very mild compared to some other things about which to complain.

 

[Trumpers_Ghost]

How about " Violent thugs target Cricketers in Lahore Massacre"

 

[Polo23]

"Terrorists slaughter innocent people in Lahore"?

 

[Mixmasterreece]

"Terrorists have dicks the size of ****roaches" ?