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Peter Roebuck

BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
dontcloseyoureyes said:
Haigh is comfortably better than Roebuck in every facet.
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Quite. It's like comapring diamonds to dogturd, frankly.

Roebuck has talent as a writer, even if he tends towards the florid, but bends his opinion to the prevailing wind and has a massive chip on his shoulder regarding his former home country. He seems to somehow see us as responsible for his own travails.
 
four_or_six

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
I really wish that the cricket media would get a bit more cheerful. If they stopped constantly going on about doom and gloom and enjoyed the cricket that's being played, I think we'd all be a lot happier.

Obviously, I don't mean discussions around security and so on... but more around T20, slow over rates, sledging etc.
 
G.I.Joe

G.I.Joe

International Coach
four_or_six said:
I really wish that the cricket media would get a bit more cheerful. If they stopped constantly going on about doom and gloom and enjoyed the cricket that's being played, I think we'd all be a lot happier.

Obviously, I don't mean discussions around security and so on... but more around T20, slow over rates, sledging etc.
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It certainly isn't the best of affairs, but the silver lining is that it seems to be limited to the media largely. The players themselves see more sense in deriving enjoyment from the game and getting on with each other. For example, todays paper carried an interview with Yuvraj who mentioned that he keeps in touch with Ponting over the phone to sort out his batting. The way the media paints relations between players, one would have imagined the Indian and Aussie players reserved the silent treatment for each other off the field (with obvious exceptions). I'm glad to see the players still see themselves as part of a cricketing fraternity.
 
burr

burr

State Vice-Captain
Roebuck is simply an average writer. As others have mentioned, the style is over-wrought and the constant analogies and pseudo-literary references grating. He also stirs for the sake of stirring and rarely says anything of long-term insight worth remembering. Haigh is comfortably superior as someone else mentioned.

Having said all that, I really quite enjoy him on radio. I think his ill-considered snarls are suited to the air waves.
 
Chubb

Chubb

International Regular
I have always been a bit embarrassed by this thread, since it really isn't like me to go off on a rant about someone like I did, but the kernel of what I said- that Roebuck hates England because British law does not allow you to hit young people and then hold them close to you so you can examine what you've done to them, remains true. Ever since that incident, he has had nothing good to say about his home country. He is not a terrible writer or commentator, but he possesses many flaws that marr him completely in a lot of people's eyes. Indeed, he has alienated many citizens of the country he now professes to love following his demand for Ponting's head after Sydney. I noticed at that time that many Australians (not so much on this board, but the more general cricket fans) discovered what he had been convicted for in England, and their distaste for his activities matched that expressed amongst English cricket fans.
 
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Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Wasn't the kid he hit South African?

Glad from a personal point of view I had SA discipline beat into me even though my mum is English, I always wondered why I only got the belt when we were in SA though!

I sometimes wish the English woman I used to live in SA with would instil a bit of discipline into her kids.. Absolute rotters as Peter Roebuck would probably say..
 
Chubb

Chubb

International Regular
Langeveldt said:
Wasn't the kid he hit South African?

Glad from a personal point of view I had SA discipline beat into me even though my mum is English, I always wondered why I only got the belt when we were in SA though!

I sometimes wish the English woman I used to live in SA with would instil a bit of discipline into her kids.. Absolute rotters as Peter Roebuck would probably say..
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There were several kids I believe, and they were South Africans, Afrikaners to be precise. Roebuck used the defence that they would be used to such treatment coming from their background. But how does that explain why he liked to look at the marks he'd made on them? And even if you leave that fairly disturbing behaviour aside, he broke the law. I am one of those people who believe hitting children does not make them behave any better. Some, indeed most of the biggest ****-ups I knew as a kid came from homes where corporal punishment was common practice. In any case, whether corporal punishment is acceptable or not hardly matters, the fact that Roebuck suffered for utilising it is, because it explains why he acts the way does about his homeland.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
four_or_six said:
I really wish that the cricket media would get a bit more cheerful. If they stopped constantly going on about doom and gloom and enjoyed the cricket that's being played, I think we'd all be a lot happier.
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When doom and gloom is all there is, there's no point pretending things are better than they are.

IMO.
 
fredfertang

fredfertang

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Precambrian said:
Caning is a crime in UK????
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Oh yes and, as you can see, it is one that is taken very seriously ... its nothing like Tom Brown's Schooldays anymore .................... nor indeed much like fredfertang's schooldays ..... which may be a good thing or it may not
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Good lord, I have no memory of a time when the cane was legal. Not entirely sure when it was banned, but it may have been before my birth.
 
Precambrian

Precambrian

Banned
fredfertang said:
Oh yes and, as you can see, it is one that is taken very seriously ... its nothing like Tom Brown's Schooldays anymore .................... nor indeed much like fredfertang's schooldays ..... which may be a good thing or it may not
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Yours truly have had enough canings when young. For offences ranging from parodying the national anthem to tying together knots of two girls sitting front.
 
fredfertang

fredfertang

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well at least you were guilty - on both occasions I can recall my "seat of learning" being assaulted there was a miscarriage of justice
 
krkode

krkode

State Captain
I've had lots of canings on the palms and sessions of kneeling outside the classroom doors for various offenses. But never on the buttocks! That just sounds deviant...
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
WoW, had never even given a moment's thought to the idea that the cane was still legal in India, the US of A or anywhere else. :mellow:
 
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