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[Jono]

Haha you know I told my friend many many years ago that Wrestlemania 22 would have Edge vs. Christian as the world title main event match. Think I was a bit off

I must have forgot Hunter existed when I said that

 

[Barney Rubble]

Haha you know I told my friend many many years ago that Wrestlemania 22 would have Edge vs. Christian as the world title main event match. Think I was a bit off

I must have forgot Hunter existed when I said that

Gives me an idea, this does. Predict the main events for the next five WrestleManias.

WrestleMania XXV:

WWE Championship
Batista (c) vs John Cena

World Heavyweight Championship:
Triple H (c) vs Jeff Hardy

(I'm also anticipating Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker and Hulk Hogan vs Edge to be pretty high on the card)

WrestleMania XXVI:

WWE Championship:
John Cena (c) vs M.V.P.

World Heavyweight Championship:
Jeff Hardy (c) vs Matt Hardy

WrestleMania XXVII

WWE Championship:
Mr. Kennedy (c) vs John Cena

World Heavyweight Championship:
Edge (c) vs John Morrison

WrestleMania XXVIII:

WWE Championship:
Mr. Kennedy (c) vs Randy Orton

World Heavyweight Championship:
Jeff Hardy (c) vs John Morrison

WrestleMania XXIX:

WWE Championship:
John Cena (c) vs John Morrison

World Heavyweight Championship:
CM Punk (c) vs Randy Orton



I'd be surprised if anything from that list beyond WM XXV is remotely correct. Although Cena vs M.V.P. isn't a bad bet for XXVI, I guess.

 

[duffer]

Quality article by Heyman on what makes Edge so good

He's absolutely spot on with that article. Edge has carried SD! for such a long time now, and Heyman there gives a good justification on the short term heat generated for Punk directly by Edge but he probably should've balanced that with the problems such a push might present them down the line.

Perhaps, in a few months, when all the moves have settled in, and WWE starts pushing WrestleMania to the forefront, I think we'll realize the most significant move -especially for Smackdown - of the 2008 roster overhaul was the move that didn't happen.

Edge stayed right where he was.

Smackdown retained its greatest asset.

 

[sledger]

Yeah, ridiculous. Really bad idea. I predict the belt won't last two years before it's Unified with the other Women's title.

I haven't looked, but I assume it's held by Michelle McCool? As she is the only diva with any real wrestling ability on Smackdown. But yes, it's as dire as.

 

[Barney Rubble]

I haven't looked, but I assume it's held by Michelle McCool? As she is the only diva with any real wrestling ability on Smackdown. But yes, it's as dire as.

It's not held by anyone yet, Michelle vs Natalya is scheduled for it though. Probably for GAB.

Brilliant article by Heyman there, very glad to see someone so highly thought of in the industry realises exactly how amazing Edge's heel work is. He's so committed to the character that he blurs the line between his real-life personality and his character, which is something that usually only babyfaces are given leeway to do. Austin could do it, Rock could do it, Triple H can do it, Michaels can do it - but only as faces. Creating a believable and hateable villain is immensely difficult to do, but Edge does it with ease. The next few months are going to be extremely interesting indeed.

 

[Athlai]

Y2J & Edge are my two favorite heels TBH. Mouth watering is the prospect that they may come into contact in a main event type clash.

 

[sledger]

As per Barney Rubbles request, I'll speak of RAW using the vicorthdox spoiler method.

Looked like a pretty decent show imo, Punk getting a big pop, which I assume is mostly down to the fact that everyone hates Vicki Guerrero so much, but hey, good stuff.

Punk vs Batista at the GAB should be passable, and should get Punk over more than he already is, so I have no probem with that either.

Interesting to see Kane attack both Michael Cole and King after the ME, him shouting "is he alive? or dead?" repeatedly at Cole suggests to me they may be trying to reignite the "is the mask going back on?" storyline from a few years ago, we can but hope.

 

[33/3from3.3]

OMGOSH Sledger, that would be awesome. All of those things sound alright.

 

[duffer]

I think WWE may have been concerned with the overness of Punk as the pops he got when he came out to face JBL should've been way bigger for a guy who just one a Title off the biggest heel they have, so playing off Vickie's heat was a smart thing to do.

As said earlier, this push needs to managed really well and he needs to be strongly built as a legit champion as having your #1 guy leeching heat is not sustainable.

I'm not sure what Punk v Batista would achieve tbh. Face v Face is confusing at the best of times and considering Batista is so much more over than Punk could see him buried. Can't see a heel turn happening now for either. Just put him in a program against a legit heel and hope he can get himself over for me.

 

[sledger]

Yeah, come to think of it, it would have made more sense for it to have been Punk vs JBL rather than have that last week, would have given JBL a boost that he needs, and would have put Punk over quite nicely.

 

[duffer]

Dude, you need to change that colour, I can read it without highlighting.

One of the problems we've got now for Punk is that now Orton is injured and Triple H is a face there's only one credible heel left in the company and he's on the other show. JBL hasn't been pushed properly for ages now, Jericho doesn't know what he is from what I've seen.

Ideally they'd turn HBK or Cena as both make awesome heels and both are over enough that a loss to Punk would have a negligible effect on them. One from left field is turning Rey and having and going against Punk. Those two could have a ridiculous high flyer blow off match, but the one I would've like is a heel Kennedy but he's on Smackdown now.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Being at a mate's house I actually managed to watch RAW last night, very solid episode I thought.

The whole "RAW in chaos" angle is obviously a setup for the return of William Regal as GM, which I like - as for Kane's little breakdown, the prospect of him turning heel again is just flat out awesome. Everyone loves heel Kane. However, I hope his little freakout doesn't mean 'Taker is coming back to RAW, as that'd mean myself and sledger wouldn't see him in November.

Oh, and one other thing - CTC FTW!

 

[vic_orthdox]

Work on that colour, Rubble. I'll edit it for you seeing as I'm a nice guy.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Work on that colour, Rubble. I'll edit it for you seeing as I'm a nice guy.

Just did it myself, wasn't sure which colour would work the first time. Thanks anyway, though.

 

[sledger]

Probably a stupid question, but what's CTC?

 

[duffer]

Holy cow, D'Lo coming back to the WWE

All I can say is **** Yeah!

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Love D'Lo

 

[Barney Rubble]

Probably a stupid question, but what's CTC?

Cryme Tyme & Cena - they were spray-painting those initials on the limo. Cena made a point of doing it while the camera was on him, and even put a circle around it afterwards, so obviously they're trying to put it over. Excited by it, TBH.

 

[sledger]

Cryme Tyme & Cena - they were spray-painting those initials on the limo. Cena made a point of doing it while the camera was on him, and even put a circle around it afterwards, so obviously they're trying to put it over. Excited by it, TBH.

haha that sounds great! Will try find that on youtube later on, would do Cryme Tyme some good to get some exposure with Cena.

Was thinking earlier about the tag team division actually, and what it used to be, and realised something that could possibly have been crucial to it being much more important than it was now. Back in the early 2000s we would reguarly see the mainevents of RAW/Smackdown being 6 man tags, involving whoever was feuding for the world title at the time. Eg: we often saw something like The Rock and the Dudleyz vs HHH, Edge and Christian, tag teams hardly ever get put in a match with a genuine maineventer these days, but back in the day the major tag teams would have been put over really well by alligning themselves with a top heel/face, shame this doesnt happen at all nowadays.

 

[Barney Rubble]

haha that sounds great! Will try find that on youtube later on, would do Cryme Tyme some good to get some exposure with Cena.

Was thinking earlier about the tag team division actually, and what it used to be, and realised something that could possibly have been crucial to it being much more important than it was now. Back in the early 2000s we would reguarly see the mainevents of RAW/Smackdown being 6 man tags, involving whoever was feuding for the world title at the time. Eg: we often saw something like The Rock and the Dudleyz vs HHH, Edge and Christian, tag teams hardly ever get put in a match with a genuine maineventer these days, but back in the day the major tag teams would have been put over really well by alligning themselves with a top heel/face, shame this doesnt happen at all nowadays.

Yeah, you're right. They really need to do something on RAW now, because there's only two tag teams left - the champs, and Cryme Tyme. SmackDown has Jesse & Festus, Miz & Morrison, Finlay & Hornswoggle, Hawkins & Ryder, and Moore & Yang, so at least they have more teams, even if barely any of them are over.

I'm hoping that, as dull as it is to see Cena and JBL involved in the same match again, we get a 6-man tag Cena & Cryme Tyme vs JBL and his hired hands, the champs, Rhodes & DiBiase. It'd put over the whole "CTC" partnership well to have them team together on PPV, and would also neatly set up a Cryme Tyme/Rhodes & DiBiase feud over the titles while they cobble together another tag team or two.

Who's left on RAW that could fill the void? There's not many. Noble & Palumbo are both not doing anything right now, and Matt Striker is supposedly on RAW now too - I guess Palumbo and Striker could form a heel team, but it wouldn't make any sense. I suppose Palumbo & Charlie Haas is another potential combination, but again, wouldn't make sense. Technically they have the Highlanders still there, but they're in the doghouse and one of them is injured; Paul London is still there, but I reckon they're saving him up for something; that just leaves Hardcore Holly, Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Val Venis who aren't currently doing anything or going to be doing anything in the near future. There's not many options there.