**Official** New Zealand in England

[Natman20]

I think having Ryder and McCullum opening is better for both players natural game. If McCullum was to open with How, I think there is too much resting on him to score in a quick fashon (I would think the same applies to Ryder if he opens with How) and thus he gets out from a shot the may not needed to been played.
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Totally agree

 

[Richard]

Ryder
McCullum
How

So far
McCullum&Ryder (5 innings, 406 @ 101.50) > McCullum&How (9 innings, 416 @ 52.00)

Worth seeing how the McCullum&Ryder partnership continues, no point in messing with it until it fails, if it ever fails.

Yeah, my thoughts precisely that. I remain to be convinced by the claims of Ryder in ODIs full-stop and McCullum as a ODI opener. But their partnership started-off well and the only thing to make sense is to give it another go after that.

Provided, of course, Ryder can play again.

 

[Perm]

None of those players have played more than 50% of their ODI's at No.3

Does that really matter? All three of those batsman have the ability to bat at #3 and have success there in the past. Fulton averages 37, How averages 45 and Taylor averages 32. Not to mention the fact that UIMM Fulton bats there for Canterbury and Taylor does the same for Central Districts.

Why must we tear down NZ debutants who don't instantly set the world on fire, it's starting to piss me off TBH. How and O'Brien examples who are finally adjusting recently to a reasonable standard after slow starts in International Cricket.

How was initially poor, but he came back with an improved technique and has been reaping the rewards in ODI cricket for a little while now. Obviously his run-scoring prowess hasn't transferred itself to Test cricket yet but he's had little opportunity. FTR I've never rated O'Brien all that highly, his action seems crazy and despite having a very fine domestic record I never felt he would be capable of bowling well at international level. However, more esteemed judges than myself (Heath being one of them) have insisted that O'Brien is a decent bowler, so I'm prepared to wait and see.

 

[Uppercut]

Obviouly. It's a lose-lose situation. All the more reason for these games not to be played really. Or at least, not after the main show.

I absolutely agree. Ireland should not be treated as an international team as long as our players are allowed to switch allegiance and play for English counties as soon as they seem to becoming any good. The idea of playing against teams like Kenya and Bangladesh is that if they don't play ODIs they'll never get any better, but in Ireland and Scotland's case the system is set up so as to make it almost impossible for their standard of cricket to improve to any real extent. Touring teams should stop wasting their time, these matches don't do anyone any good.

 

[stumpski]

Ireland look to be heading for another defeat, this time against their old rivals. Gavin Hamilton has 85 not out, it's almost like 1999 again.

 

[andruid]

Ireland look to be heading for another defeat, this time against their old rivals. Gavin Hamilton has 85 not out, it's almost like 1999 again.

Can anyone confirm if a win will put the Scots on the main ODI ranking tables pr do they have to beat NZ?

 

[stumpski]

Pretty sure they would have to beat at least two Test teams (as Ireland did in the last WC). Beating other associates won't do it.

 

[steds]

 

[laksh_01]

Scotland can also be on the main table by beating atleast one Test team & having Win % of 60+ against other associates.

 

[Days of Grace]

Provided, of course, Ryder can play again.

Well, he's heading to Australia with the emerging players' squad, so it's looking good.

 

[Somerset]

115 for Hamilton in the end, NZ watch out..

Was good to see Blain and Nel amongst the wickets, they'd actually impressed me as a useful opening bowling duo in the limited Scottish matches I've managed to see.

 

[Flem274*]

Yeah, my thoughts precisely that. I remain to be convinced by the claims of Ryder in ODIs full-stop and McCullum as a ODI opener. But their partnership started-off well and the only thing to make sense is to give it another go after that.

Provided, of course, Ryder can play again.

The disparities in Ryders domestic records for List A and FC are intriguing. You'd think, if anything, he'd be a better one day player however an average in the twenties in List A vs an average in the forties in FC kinda sinks that idea. Ryders record could be a result of anything though, even something as stupid as not applying himself, which is a statement that can apply to Ryder. He's faced some good List A bowlers but he's talented and he doesn't face the good bowlers all the time. He's also had nice small grounds and generally flat pitches in List A. Meanwhile he can succeed against the same bowlers on green pitches over 4 days in FC cricket. Wierd player.

 

[Nutter]

Am really liking the Ryder/McCullum/How triumverate. These guys have been winning us ODIs, and long may it continue!

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Am really liking the Ryder/McCullum/How triumverate. These guys have been winning us ODIs, and long may it continue!

Winning AND drawing...

 

[Nutter]

Winning AND drawing...

You speak the truth!

 

[Zinzan]

I'd like to see Ryder establish himself at 3. Jamie How I reckon is invaluable at the top of the order for us.

ODI team:

How
McCullum
Ryder
Taylor
Flynn/Fulton
Oram
Elliott
Franklin
Vettori
Mills
Southee

Ryder's a must to open for mine, not just because of his success there but also for the lefthand righthand combination. Quite happy for Ryder to Open with McCullum and How at 3 and would also be open to Ryder & How opening with McCullum back down the order at 7 depending on the pitch/opposition.

 

[stumpski]

New Zealand have won the toss and put Scotland in - Styris replacing Marshall - so it looks as if they're aiming to wrap it up quickly. Flying home tomorrow I would imagine.

 

[Zinzan]

Yeah, my thoughts precisely that. I remain to be convinced by the claims of Ryder in ODIs full-stop and McCullum as a ODI opener. But their partnership started-off well and the only thing to make sense is to give it another go after that.

Provided, of course, Ryder can play again.

Suprised someone with your interest in the game fails to recognise the obvious natural potential of Ryder tbh.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

New Zealand have won the toss and put Scotland in - Styris replacing Marshall - so it looks as if they're aiming to wrap it up quickly. Flying home tomorrow I would imagine.

Yeah, no other reason to win the toss and field against a minnow. They obviously dont want the batting practice, and see the whole game as pointless. So field first and get the game over as quick as possible, get there paychecks, and get the hell out of Dodge.

 

[profernity]

The last I'd heard about Ryder was that he was experiencing pain when fielding tennis balls, let alone cricket balls. Has his condition improved since then?