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Fair enough.
But to me he's looked more solid than the recent Test efforts of Cumming and Papps put together.
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But to me he's looked more solid than the recent Test efforts of Cumming and Papps put together.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Looking at that scorecard, both sides what I'd consider strong sides. Certainly, the England side looks terrific (Hoggard, Caddick, Flintoff (@ 7 too!) and NZ's side did as well, despite lacking Cairns.Haha yeah, being dropped about 3 times!I remember that now, think he must've given about 15 chances that series, and he was only out 6 times.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
I may be biased in my likeness for Cumming, but apart from Bells' century vs Bangladesh, I believe Cumming has been far better than Bell and harshly treated. Would like to see Cumming & How open, itbt.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Don't forget, Hoggard and Flintoff were crap at that time. Novice players with some amount of promise, that's all.
NZ should've been damn good around then, but O'Connor was injured, Nash was injured (neither would return
), this new fellow who'd played 2 Tests and taken 3 wickets at 96 was injured, Cairns had got injured in the First Test, Fleming was hopelessly out of nick and out of luck that series, Horne likewise, Parore was in his last series and seemed to have already got most of his head in retirement, and Butler and Drum were... well... awful.England, aside from the Hoggard and Flintoff cases, had Butcher, Hussain and Thorpe, but then we had Ramprakash, whose tortured tour finally ended his time as a Test cricketer; we had Foster who was inept too at that time; Giles who was innocuous as ever; and Caddick who was good but should've done better, especially in the Third Test.
It wasn't as good as it should've been.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Crap ball by Sidebottom, which has been punished be Bell. Brings up his 50 - well done.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Should've added "on paper" tbh.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Fleming edging his way along. Even when he mi****s, he looks good.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
I'm positively Taylor Dent-ing around the room TBH.50 FOR MATTHEW BELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Need to avoid the filter fella.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Anyone want to make an avatar bet on Matthew Bell outscoring his English namesake for the series? Needs just 150 more runs...
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Ian ends-up top-scoring, you have B*Witched for a month, Matthew does, I have you-name-it?
You're on.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Am loving the way Fleming is approaching his innings. I was really dreading that he'd be extremely nervous and over-compensate in his innings, but he looks so laid back out there. Like he's on top of it all...
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
That's a rarity for Fleming...
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Daym. Was worth a try tho.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Will, however, take bets on Fleming ending up as the series leading run-scorer...