Which IPL franchise will you be supporting?

[ret]

Can you guys show us how do you expect Banglore to pace its innings when setting and chasing a target esp when playing against the top teams like Hybad, Mohali, Del or Mumbai?

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[silentstriker]

Can you guys show us how do you expect Banglore to pace its innings when setting and chasing a target esp when playing against the top teams like Hybad, Mohali, Del or Mumbai?

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What do you mean how? Just because they can score fast, it doesn't mean they will. And just because Dravid doesn't score fast, doesn't mean he can't. I'll back a guy who can preserve his wicket for most of 20 overs any day over hit and miss players who are likely to bundle out for 80 going for a slog.

 

[ret]

What do you mean how? Just because they can score fast, it doesn't mean they will. And just because Dravid doesn't score fast, doesn't mean he can. I'll back a guy who can preserve his wicket for most of 20 overs any day over hit and miss players who are likely to bundle out for 80 going for a slog.

What you prefer may not exactly work on field, my friend, and thats why different formats r being played in cricket like tests, ODIs and 20T .... if what you said were true then we probably would hv specialist openers opening in 20T

What do you mean by hit and miss players? Is Gilly, Dhoni or Symo a hit and miss player? Or are you implying that there are only two kinds of players, i.e. Afridi types and Dravid types? .... And how many teams bundle out of 80 in a 20-20?

In 20T, if you are 50 for 3 then still you can go around and end up with 150 but if you place urself at 60/0 after 12, then chances are you will probably be at 140 unless someone plays really well

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[NUFAN]

Bangalore will have Bracken, Steyn, Kumble, Zaheer, Kallis bowling the majority of the overs.

That's a very good attack, I don't think they'll need as many as other teams to win games.

And in any event i've seen Kallis, Dravid, Chanderpaul all bat aggressively before and Cam White and Mark Boucher are aggressive batsmen too.

 

[silentstriker]

What you prefer may not exactly work on field, my friend, and thats why different formats r being played in cricket like tests, ODIs and 20T .... if what you said were true then we probably would hv specialist openers opening in 20T

What do you mean by hit and miss players? Is Gilly, Dhoni or Symo a hit and miss player? Or are you implying that there are only two kinds of players, i.e. Afridi types and Dravid types? .... And how many teams bundle out of 80 in a 20-20?

In 20T, if you are 50 for 3 then still you can go around and end up with 150 but if you place urself at 60/0 after 12, then chances are you will probably be at 140 unless someone plays really well

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You have multiple formats, but those who can do well in the most important format of the game have ability in the traditional cricketing skills, and they can almost always downgrade to the lesser formats and be at least decent at it - you can't make the opposite leap.

Wait and see - I suspect that one of us will be highly surprised. I will back Bangalore to be the best batting, or the second best batting team at the end of the season.

 

[ret]

Bangalore will have Bracken, Steyn, Kumble, Zaheer, Kallis bowling the majority of the overs.

That's a very good attack, I don't think they'll need as many as other teams to win games.

And in any event i've seen Kallis, Dravid, Chanderpaul all bat aggressively before and Cam White and Mark Boucher are aggressive batsmen too.

Banglore can't have Bracken, Steyn, Kallis, Cpaul, White and Boucher playing at the same time in the playing XI :P .... so i don't think that ur assessment hold any water

as, if i m not wrong then, only 4 international players can play in the playing X1

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[ret]

You have multiple formats, but those who can do well in the most important format of the game have ability in the traditional cricketing skills, and they can almost always downgrade to the lesser formats and be at least decent at it - you can't make the opposite leap.

Wait and see - I suspect that one of us will be highly surprised. I will back Bangalore to be the best batting, or the second best batting team at the end of the season.

Well, if Banglore ends up with 150/4 more often than not then you may find its batters amongst the top in aggregate runs w/ Banglore losing more games than winning them

What i would like to see is how they play and set up wins for Banglore

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[NUFAN]

Banglore can't have Bracken, Steyn, Kallis, Cpaul, White and Boucher playing at the same time in the playing XI :P .... so i don't think that ur assessment hold any water

as, if i m not wrong then, only 4 international players can play in the playing X1

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Oh it holds water.

No squad is complete yet, the squad only have 10 players so far, so it's just guess work at this stage, so I was just indicating what the players selected could bring.

I think having Dravid, Kumble and Zaheer in the squad is a gread coup for Bangalore.

 

[ret]

Oh it holds water.

No squad is complete yet, so I was just indicating what the players selected could bring.

I think having Dravid, Kumble and Zaheer in the squad is a gread coup for Bangalore.

But 6 international players can't play in the XI like you suggested earlier

Yeah Dravid and co definately add value but other teams r not playing with dummies

Once again I ll go with the possible B'lore line up

top order ----> Jaffar, Local, Kallis
middle order ----> Dravid and Boucher
lower order ----> White, Local, local
bowlers ----> Bracken, Zak, Kumble

^ at the moment, does that appear like a good 20T line up?

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[silentstriker]

But 6 international players can't play in the XI like you suggested earlier

Yeah Dravid and co definately add value but other teams r not playing with dummies

Once again I ll go with the possible B'lore line up

top order ----> Jaffar, Local, Kallis
middle order ----> Dravid and Boucher
lower order ----> White, Local, local
bowlers ----> Bracken, Zak, Kumble

^ at the moment, does that appear like a good 20T line up?

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Yes.

 

[NUFAN]

But 6 international players can't play in the XI like you suggested earlier

Yeah Dravid and co definately add value but other teams r not playing with dummies

Once again I ll go with the possible B'lore line up

top order ----> Jaffar, Local, Kallis
middle order ----> Dravid and Boucher
lower order ----> White, Local, local
bowlers ----> Bracken, Zak, Kumble

^ at the moment, does that appear like a good 20T line up?

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I only actually suggested that Bangalore will have Steyn, Kallis and Bracken bowling as international players and then said that I've seen some of the batsmen who you think aren't good at Twenty20, perform well on occasions.

And btw yes, I do think it's a decent lineup so far.

 

[Jono]

People writing Bangalore off already are crazy! They have a very good team, and as my mother's side of the family are based there, I'll be looking for them to do well as well as Hyderabad.

Would love if Dravid and Kallis led them to victory in a 20/20 tournament. Would be sweet!

 

[Cevno]

Delhi have signed rajat bhatia and praveen kumar.
Bangalore have signed saurabh tiwary and have made a offer for virat kohli and tanmay srivastava.
Mohali have made a offer for shikhar dhawan.

 

[adharcric]

But 6 international players can't play in the XI like you suggested earlier

Yeah Dravid and co definately add value but other teams r not playing with dummies

Once again I ll go with the possible B'lore line up

top order ----> Jaffar, Local, Kallis
middle order ----> Dravid and Boucher
lower order ----> White, Local, local
bowlers ----> Bracken, Zak, Kumble

^ at the moment, does that appear like a good 20T line up?

cheers

Haha, you clearly haven't watched Dravid very closely over the past few years. He has the ability to be a very useful Twenty20 batsman, just wait and watch. Just because Dravid is technically and temperamentally good enough to survive high-class test bowling by playing defensive cricket, you can't assume that he can't play the traditional aggressive shots when the going is easy. He's shown that he can. Yeah, he won't be like Yuvraj and Symonds but he can still be effective.

 

[adharcric]

Delhi have signed rajat bhatia and praveen kumar.
Bangalore have signed saurabh tiwary and have made a offer for virat kohli and tanmay srivastava.
Mohali have made a offer for shikhar dhawan.

Great! One exciting aspect of the IPL that hasn't been talked about much is the exposure that these kids will get to world-class cricketers. Besides, these will be the guys who actually have the time to play IPL on a regular basis.

 

[khawi]

The more u faster the more u being hurt by the batsman, bowlers like Mcgrath and Gul gonna hurt their opposition and on indian tracks i rate Afridi and Harbhjan both as the most wicket takers of the tournament, Dravis, VVS and Kallis gonna hurt their owners as well as their teams. Do not use asif in the end of the overs coz he will cost more than u invest on him, ishant will be the poorest among them all coz he already cost his owners Billion$ and he is gonna be in the top 5 most expensive bowlers in th eend of the game, even not sure if he can bowl he cota of 4 overs in any game.
Poor Ponter under Ganguly now hope he wont take many things from him.

So Wish all of the Billionears best of luck and do invest with thier brain next time while bidding

Cheers

 

[ret]

Haha, you clearly haven't watched Dravid very closely over the past few years. He has the ability to be a very useful Twenty20 batsman, just wait and watch. Just because Dravid is technically and temperamentally good enough to survive high-class test bowling by playing defensive cricket, you can't assume that he can't play the traditional aggressive shots when the going is easy. He's shown that he can. Yeah, he won't be like Yuvraj and Symonds but he can still be effective.

1. Now how did you assume that I haven't watched Dravid over the past few years??!!

2. And then you make an even stranger assumption that I say that because he is technically and temperamentally good enough and plays defensive in test cricket

Below is Dravid's perfo in ODIs in the last 12 mts, Dravid in ODIs in the last 12 mts .... and that avg is probably helped by a few not outs. And as expected, he is not even in the Ind ODI team

Ur last line somewhat sums things up, when you say that he won't be like Yuvi or Symo thats precisely the case here coz 20-20 is more abt players like Yuvi and Symo than Dravid. It's abt making a difference and not abt just being effective and B'lore has too many players who can be 'effective' rather than make a difference .... Theoretically, even Agarkar can be termed as an effective all-rounder

It's not just Dravid or Kallis, guys like Ganguly & Laxman fall somewhat into Dravid's category but at least they hv other players in their team [unlike Banglore] who can make a difference

Unless the pitches are dust bowls or green tops, I don't hv high hopes for B'lore

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[masterblaster]

If a side is 4/30 off 3 overs in a Twenty20 match like India was not too long ago against Australia, you are going to need some solid players coming in the middle order. A lot of the other teams don't have this but Bangalore do. If this is the case with Dravid, Kallis, White and Boucher coming into the side Bangalore is a side that can recover from real poor starts.

With there terrific bowling lineup, they could defend scores around 120-130. I'm not going to count them out just because they don't have glamourous strokemakers. I quite like their team and infact I'd probably support them second after Delhi.

 

[ret]

If a side is 4/30 off 3 overs in a Twenty20 match like India was not too long ago against Australia, you are going to need some solid players coming in the middle order. A lot of the other teams don't have this but Bangalore do. If this is the case with Dravid, Kallis, White and Boucher coming into the side Bangalore is a side that can recover from real poor starts.

With there terrific bowling lineup, they could defend scores around 120-130. I'm not going to count them out just because they don't have glamourous strokemakers. I quite like their team and infact I'd probably support them second after Delhi.

WoW, so you are taking that one game at Melbourne as an example .... the games would probably be played on batting wkts in Ind

Even if Dravid had played that game, I don't think that the end result would have been different

And B'lore being able to defend 120-130 on regular basis is highly optimistic, unless the pitch is a dust bowl or a green top, in which case that would be a good score

But you are entitled to an opinion

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[Jono]

Whilst Boucher often plays innings of a gutsy, graft-like nature, the man can absolutely tee-off when he needs to.

If he comes in with Kallis, Dravid and Chanderpaul laying a platform, Boucher with White can go nuts.

And Chanderpaul showed in 2007 in ODIs that he can be absolutely brilliant as well.