***Official*** India in Australia

[Cevno]

SI estimates that Sachin earned USD$17 million last year

MS Dhoni was recently named as India's most marketable sports personality and earnes millions pa

Yuvraj given a Porsche 911 and $250,000 for his performances in 20/20

Only one is worth his place in Sydney

what?after one match.

 

[Cevno]

Um, that's not what you said. You said they perform worse the more money they get. They've all earned money. Sachin has been warning $10+ million for about fifteen years now, even in his prime. Dhoni earns money for his ODI batting, and Yuvraj has been the most consistent performer in the Indian ODI and T20 Team. Taking Yuvraj - he has only started earning a lot of money recently - when he started performing well. I don't understand the argument.

I agree .I still think they earn less money than they should.the board earns so much money and only 26% is distributed amongst the players out of which 14% goes to domestic cricketers and only 12% to international cricketers who earn the money for the board.

 

[silentstriker]

I agree .I still think they earn less money than they should.the board earns so much money and only 26% is distributed amongst the players out of which 14% goes to domestic cricketers and only 12% to international cricketers who earn the money for the board.

Most of their money comes from endorsements. The players earn what they should from the BCCI. BCCI should spend the bulk of their money on infastructure and domestic cricket, not the salaries of national stars.

 

[Turbinator]

I have lost interest in this game and from what I'm noticing around the net, so have most Indian fans. Tough to take something seriously when the umpires, instead of the players, start playing a huge role in the outcome. Symonds was blatantly OUT when the score was 194-6(he was out 2 more times after this). He goes on to make a 100, not to mention giving the lower order more reason to put a bigger price on their wicket. This Test Match is a farce. Sucks to see India constantly challenge Australia only to be screwed by the umpires. This whole series was changed by the umpires yesterday.

Exactly, completely AWTA. Hate to keep bringing this umpiring up, but things went a bit too far yesterday, I've pretty much lost all interest in this match as well, and if things continue the way they are I think I might end up losing interest in the series. Yes are bowling/fielding could've been better, but if the umpires got their frikin decisions right, would you have been saying the same thing, I am sure Australia would've been bundled out much sooner. Heck because of these blunders, I might just end up losing my avatar (no I am not offering excuses now, instead complaining, cuz I still believe India can win/draw this series but had the idiots gotten their decisions right, things would've been so much easier).

****!

 

[SJS]

Cricketing experts and commentators keep wondering if Australia's dominance is detrimental to cricket. It is quite likely to bring the slow but sure demise of the game. If umpiring decisions were even-handed, Australia would not enjoy the extended run of success contributing to their dominance. It is high time international cricket administrators strip some of the halo around the umpires and put more faith in modern technology to confirm umpiring decisions. Tennis has already done this for the major events around the world. Many lousy umpires have finished off the cricketing careers of budding players, and there seems to be no end in sight to the autocratic power vested in the umpires and match referees. Should this trend continue, administrators can rest assured the cricket-mad public (mainly the subcontinent type) will begin thinning away at the international stadiums fairly soon, and it will kill the golden goose.
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THE standard of umpiring in the Boxing Day Test between India and Australia is bordering on absurdity. It seems like a practical joke on the visiting teams and fee-paying spectators. In the game, five crucial decisions went against the Indians, and such howlers happen time and time again, especially in Australia. With so much assistance for Australia from the so-called "neutral" umpires it is no wonder visiting teams have not had any success here in living memory. Local cricket commentators rant that the Aussie cricketers are an invincible lot. Yes, they will be invincible so long as umpires keep handing out blatantly favourable decisions to them on a platter.
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....and that was after the Melbourne test. Wonder what they will say in today's Sydney Morning Herald ?

 

[JBH001]

Perhaps Jason was right, after all?

 

[McKanga]

From Symonds admits: I was out on 30

'......."I was very lucky. I was out when I was 30 and given not out," Symonds said after a day of runs, wickets and poor umpiring decisions....."That's cricket, though," Symonds said. "I could tell you about some bad decisions as well. That's the game. It's one of those things." ...... Asked if he thought the decision was vital, Symonds replied: "Possibly. I don't care, mate. It's happened. There is nothing you can do about it." ......'

 

[Matt79]

On the other hand, Watson aside I am having a hard time coming up with Australian names who have suffered adverse consequences from injury in the last decade. Surely its not just down to a better fitness program or better bowling actions.

hmmmm, Shane Warne's shoulder. Steve Waugh and Gillespie after they crashed into each other. Gillespie in general for a long time. Brett Lee had a fracture in his back. Glenn McGrath's ankle in the 2005 Ashes. Stuart MacGill's wrist before the start of this series. Justin Langer's injuries in the last twelve months of his career. Shaun Tait's elbow.

Add to that McGrath's absence on family leave for the best part of a year, and Shane Warne's self-inflicted one year absence, and I don't think there's much of a case to say that Australia hasn't had to deal with injuries and forced absences.

If we get fewer chronic injury problems with particular players, I would indeed put that down to a superior fitness program and work ethic amongst the players.

 

[Matt79]

Imagine if an Indian or Pakistani umpire had given these decisions AGANIST Australia in an Ashes series.

What would the Aussie media and players be saying then ? Anyone remember the racist idiot Hair and how he dealt with the Pakistani team in England.

God save this sport - more and more people will get disenfanchised with such inept/biased/rigged umpiring that hs CHANGED the course of the match.

Good luck to all us fools who spend time and money watching such a FARCE.

I have lost interest in this game and from what I'm noticing around the net, so have most Indian fans. Tough to take something seriously when the umpires, instead of the players, start playing a huge role in the outcome. Symonds was blatantly OUT when the score was 194-6(he was out 2 more times after this). He goes on to make a 100, not to mention giving the lower order more reason to put a bigger price on their wicket. This Test Match is a farce. Sucks to see India constantly challenge Australia only to be screwed by the umpires. This whole series was changed by the umpires yesterday.

These links and the quote are just an example of steve bucknor's shocking decisions against India .I do not know why he is still umpiring against india .
He hates us and these examples are mostly till 2004 and he has done much more after that too.I hope he rots in hell.That c*nt.
It is good we are complaining to ICC but i think kumble should go public against him and I am sure the media will make the board follow.

Enjoy watching your hockey or whatever....

 

[Top_Cat]

Add to that McGrath's absence on family leave for the best part of a year, and Shane Warne's self-inflicted one year absence, and I don't think there's much of a case to say that Australia hasn't had to deal with injuries and forced absences.

Glenn McGrath was out for the entire series last time India were here, too. Has had a couple of extended absences for rib/intercostal muscle troubles too.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Just to clean up my memory, IIRC Dar was the man responsible for a barrage of bad ones at Trent Bridge, wasn't he?

Having checked the history, yes, he was. The inside-edge LBW for Martyn against Hoggard in the first dig and the Harmison leg-before shout to Katich that just wasn't out on so many different levels in the second dig.

Why let facts stand in the way, though?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

The article seemed to be implying reference to matches in Australia though.

 

[Son Of Coco]

All these people pointing out that India should have been good enough to come back from the ridiculous umpiring errros, thanks for stating the obvious.

The point is though, they aren't. On top of that, they've lost the toss again for a second test running, and their best fast bowler was injured and is now out for the series. Of course the umpiring errors are going to hurt even more in this case, and **** up a good test match.

India aren't the best test team in the world, no one is claiming that. And they're obviously not better than the Aussies either. But they have the right to have Symonds go back to the shed when they've got him out twice.

Cricket isn't about umpiring errors, no matter how many times people post that these human errors is what makes the game of cricket good. That's just romantic garbage.

They were good enough until they dropped their bundle though, that made a massive difference as did the error with Symonds.

 

[archie mac]

I know it is awhile ago, but did the Aussie supporters carry on like the Indian supporters on here, after a Kasper was caught (not) behind in the Ashes Test of 2005?

I hope not, would be embarrassed tbh

 

[Son Of Coco]

Right. That's when it goes against the other team. When it goes against Australia, we're certain to see a livid Ponting in the umpire's face. Hogg's just saying that cause it's all fine and dandy for Australia ATM. Let's see if he's as magnanimous if Dhoni is given not out twice.

Not that it's likely to make much of a difference in the final scoreline.

I don't remember Hogg being too annoyed when he had Ganguly 3 times in the First Test.

 

[JBH001]

The article seemed to be implying reference to matches in Australia though.

That certainly was the impression I had gathered, yes.

(And I believe it is what Jason goes on - and on - about too)

 

[Son Of Coco]

All very nice in theory but when you're facing a team that is superior in every single department, you need them to play badly, or for you to play exceptionally well. And when the difference in ability is as massive as it is, you need luck. Having the right 'attitude' means squat when you can't back it up with ability.

India have the ability though...I'd suggest what's lacking more often than not is attitude.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Imagine if an Indian or Pakistani umpire had given these decisions AGANIST Australia in an Ashes series.

What would the Aussie media and players be saying then ? Anyone remember the racist idiot Hair and how he dealt with the Pakistani team in England.

God save this sport - more and more people will get disenfanchised with such inept/biased/rigged umpiring that hs CHANGED the course of the match.

Good luck to all us fools who spend time and money watching such a FARCE.

We get it...now go away.

 

[Top_Cat]

India have the ability though...I'd suggest what's lacking more often than not is attitude.

Yep. The barrage of ultra-talented batsmen to come out of India in the last 10-15 years proves it, really. There have certainly been talented bowlers too; Kumble is world-class, Harbi is plenty talented too. Srinath was an excellent Test bowler, Sharma looks quite dangerous too. There's never been an issue of raw talent with regards the India team as far as I'm concerned which is evidenced by the fact they dominate under-age cricket.

And as far as talent goes, two of the four Aussie bowlers were regarded as domestic specialists for years and have only recently come good Test-wise (with plenty of questions over Brad Hogg still), Lee has only recently started taking regular Test wickets and Mitch Johnson isn't an established member of the side either. In fact, aside from Lee, this is one of the most inexperienced Aussie bowling attacks in years. Yet it's still winning tests with days to spare. It's not about talent, it's about maximisation of whatever talent you do have. In my opinion, the only players in the Indian line-up who have squeezed every last bit of ability out of their careers are Rahul Dravid, Anil Kumble and perhaps Sachin although certainly some people make a case that he's under-achieved in big matches.

 

[slugger]

I don't remember Hogg being too annoyed when he had Ganguly 3 times in the First Test.

it all evens its self outt.. this is becoming a weak and lame reason... thats kinda what ya implying... id rather see a game won under the their skill and ability alone... remove this out dated theory "all evens out" luck crap factor.. its killing the game.. and id bet my bottom dollar if it was in place.. and they went upstairs for symonds to confirm the caught behind.. hed say dont bother and start walking... and over time players would just start walking,