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***Official*** New Zealand in Australia

NZTailender

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
mikeW said:
37 is not acceptable for us when we have other highly talented players in the country. Australia doesn't accept mediocrity.

EWS re: him being incosistant, whilst i agree in the past he did tend to do that in recent times he has matured and improved that part of his game. I actually disagree about him being better credentialled in the one day form. His performances haven't really been that staggering compared to his 4 day form.
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Should somebody tell Adam Gilchrist?
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

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mikeW said:
37 is not acceptable for us when we have other highly talented players in the country. Australia doesn't accept mediocrity.
EWS re: him being incosistant, whilst i agree in the past he did tend to do that in recent times he has matured and improved that part of his game. I actually disagree about him being better credentialled in the one day form. His performances haven't really been that staggering compared to his 4 day form.
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Well good for Australia.

And isn't Katich a middle order player? Wtf are you judging him based on opening stats?
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

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mikeW said:
He batted in the middle order in test matches as well....
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So is 37 his career average, his opening average or his middle order average? I know he opened at some point and I'd be interested in what his average without the opening games included is.
 
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Laurrz

International Debutant
Flem274* said:
So is 37 his career average, his opening average or his middle order average? I know he opened at some point and I'd be interested in what his average without the opening games included is.
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He never opened in test matches
did bat at first drop in the Indian tour though and did well
 
NZTailender

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
mikeW said:
Go ahead, he averages 49.27.... :laugh:
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Umm we're talking about One Day Internationals, right? I was talking about ODI's.
Let's not even get started on David Hussey in tests because he's behind a backlog of players.

I admit he's closer to playing ODI's though.
 
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Laurrz

International Debutant
NZTailender said:
I admit he's closer to playing ODI's though.
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would be hard to break that XI in ODI's too.. i guess he could play at #7 but we know the importance of that 5th bowler

all i want is for him to be recognized by the selectors.. there is gonna be a lot of cricket played and theres bound to be a few injuries or players getting rested (particularly if its dead rubber matches) so then the fringe players get a chance to play ..ala. Voges etc.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Clapo said:
Plenty of batsmen have made mediocre starts, been dropped, come back into the test team and cement their place.
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Indeed, practically every Test batsman of recent times other than Mark Waugh and Gilchrist.
 
TheLad

TheLad

School Boy/Girl Captain
Laurrz said:
would be hard to break that XI in ODI's too.. i guess he could play at #7 but we know the importance of that 5th bowler

all i want is for him to be recognized by the selectors.. there is gonna be a lot of cricket played and theres bound to be a few injuries or players getting rested (particularly if its dead rubber matches) so then the fringe players get a chance to play ..ala. Voges etc.
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The Chairmans XI was full of West Aussies but he got a hit along with Hughes the baby. I think it is a fair indication that their is some consideration for Hussey around with the selectors, he just has not got a spot available to him in the main team yet.
 
Johnners

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Prince EWS said:
Have you seen Hussey bowl? He's certainly a better spin bowler than Symonds and White AFAIC.



The thing is, though, his fans have nothing to whinge about, yet they try to do so, regularly. The most bemusing part of it is that they claim he's not even in contention for selection - how on earth do they know this? He could very well be in contention for selection and just miss out all the time for various reasons.

As far as first class cricket goes, he is dreadfully inconsistent and it wasn't that long ago he was dropped from the Victorian team. His scoring patten tends to resemble {124, 253*, 112, 4, 5, 1, 12, 0, 142} in first class cricket and it's not really what the Australian team are looking for. Not to mention the fact that middle order batting spots haven't been opening up like cans of soup in the test team.

His one day credentials are a bit different - he's a much more consistent batsman in that format and his claims are quite justified. I'm sure he's on the cusp of selection quite often, but others have been selected ahead of him for various reasons. Cameron White was in better form with the bat when selected, is more suited to #7 and was perceived as a bowling option. The criticism of the Voges selection does my head in - he's a few years younger than Hussey and has a much better record in one day cricket than Hussey. Hodge had experience at international level when picked and also has a better record in one day cricket than Hussey. Haddin has often been selected in squads as a wicket keeping option when touring and then played as a batsman anyway, but this is to groom him into international cricket and prepare for the retirement of Gilchrist.

Hussey may be good enough, he may not be. But to think he's been done some massive injustice by not being selected, or to assume he's not in contention at all, would be ridiculous.
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Agree with this (basically because it's the same as what I said, except much clearer :p)
 
TheLad

TheLad

School Boy/Girl Captain
Fiery said:
Just a Chappell Hadlee stat to remember:

8 games. New Zealand 5 wins. Australia 3 wins :cool:
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All even at the end of this series.

This is not just arrogant Aussie talking but NZ form is sour amd the injury list is going to hurt why Australia's key players are on song right now. Ponting, Gilchrist, Lee, Tait, M Hussey and Clarke. Add a good contribution to Symonds and your injured, out of form bowling attack and your brittle batting line up is going to find this series too hot to handle.
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

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TheLad said:
All even at the end of this series.

This is not just arrogant Aussie talking but NZ form is sour amd the injury list is going to hurt why Australia's key players are on song right now. Ponting, Gilchrist, Lee, Tait, M Hussey and Clarke. Add a good contribution to Symonds and your injured, out of form bowling attack and your brittle batting line up is going to find this series too hot to handle.
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Peter Fulton is our saviour. Gunnest player ever bar Fleming. Etc etc etc.

He's on leave ATM playing FC cricket so we've replaced him with...................................................GARETH HOPKINS HAHA STOP US NOW SUCKERS!!!!!!











Ahem yes
 
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