• Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Gilchrist named Australia's greatest ever ODI player

Son Of Coco

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Perm said:
Yes, to an extent. The primary task of a batsman is to score runs, if he looks good whilst doing it then it's just an added bonus.
Click to expand...
It is, but in a one-day game how quickly they're scored is also of some importance. The job of an opener in the one-day game has increasingly become that of firing his team off to a good start. As a result, IMO the stats don't always tell the full story. If a current day batsman has a pretty decent average and a high strike rate then he's performed well.
 
Ikki

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Son Of Coco said:
It is, but in a one-day game how quickly they're scored is also of some importance. The job of an opener in the one-day game has increasingly become that of firing his team off to a good start. As a result, IMO the stats don't always tell the full story. If a current day batsman has a pretty decent average and a high strike rate then he's performed well.
Click to expand...
Just adding to what you've said...

The quicker a player scores the more balls he saves. Gilchrist may score 6-7 runs less than a Tendulkar or a Ponting but he saves a good 3 - and in other cases more - overs. If the difference of those runs came down to it, I'd back the number of balls saved - even if tail-enders were batting - to make that difference and by quite a bit.
 
Perm

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Fiery said:
and the speed at which they do it doesn't matter?
Click to expand...
In an ODI or Twenty20, yes. However, Ganguly will score more runs than Gilchrist and by a reasonable margin too so the Strike Rate isn't quite as important. If I was selecting a team I would pick Gilchrist because of the added value of his wicket-keeping, and I also like watching him bat. But as pure ODI openers then I feel Sourav Ganguly is better.
 
Fiery

Fiery

Banned
Perm said:
In an ODI or Twenty20, yes. However, Ganguly will score more runs than Gilchrist and by a reasonable margin too so the Strike Rate isn't quite as important. If I was selecting a team I would pick Gilchrist because of the added value of his wicket-keeping, and I also like watching him bat. But as pure ODI openers then I feel Sourav Ganguly is better.
Click to expand...
Seriously? :wacko:
 
Last edited:
Top_Cat

Top_Cat

Request Your Custom Title Now!
While McGrath would probably be one of the names on my teamsheet, I'm not sure that he brings anything to the table that a Hadlee, Garner, Ambrose or Pollock doesn't bring. Wasim was special in that he was a genuinely aggressive wicket taking bowler, and probably the most destructive bowler in ODI cricket history. Plus his more than capable slogging in the lower order seals the deal for me.
Click to expand...
Errr, last I checked, none of those guys played for Australia and this thread was about Australia's best ODI player. McGrath my number 1 ODI player for Australia closely followed by Dean Jones, Ricky Ponting then Adam Gilchrist.
 
Ikki

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Perm said:
In an ODI or Twenty20, yes. However, Ganguly will score more runs than Gilchrist and by a reasonable margin too so the Strike Rate isn't quite as important. If I was selecting a team I would pick Gilchrist because of the added value of his wicket-keeping, and I also like watching him bat. But as pure ODI openers then I feel Sourav Ganguly is better.
Click to expand...
More and by a reasonable margin? The difference is 5 on average. The question is, would you rather have 5 runs or 4 overs worth to get those 5 runs?
 
Perm

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
KaZoH0lic said:
More and by a reasonable margin? The difference is 5 on average. The question is, would you rather have 5 runs or 4 overs worth to get those 5 runs?
Click to expand...
5 runs is a reasonable margin I would have thought, especially when we are talking about two of the finest ODI openers ever.
 
biased indian

biased indian

International Coach
NUFAN said:
I'm certain Gilly could average 40 plus if he was playing for a lesser team. But for Australia facing an average of 6 overs per game is enough due to the strong batting lineup.
Click to expand...
he opened the inngs all the time rite..so how it will effect his batting ????

i didnt go and chk it..... but i think ponting who comes one down to him avg more than him
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Top