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Who's Orams replacement? Or hasn't he gone home?
He's out there batting at the moment, using a runner of course.

Brendon McCullum just got hit on the gloves for the second time. Andre Nel threatening to lose his cool here.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Too bad that ole Heath is out injured (actually that is quite unsurprising) then we could call bring Heath back.

Bring back Hamish and James Marshall :ph34r:
 

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I know McCullum got a fair working over, but in the end his dismissal was pathetic.
 
What a joke. Dream on pal.

McCullum gets out for about 15-16 trying to smash the ball out of the ground in ODI's. At least Vincent can score ODI centuries FFS. Don't even get me started on the McCullum and Mills vs Papps and Cumming. If McCullum and Mills ever open in tests the selectors deserve to be shot.

Your posts are a typical example of the ODI loving public that think that because a player can hit big and play all the shots they must have extreme talent and are the best players in the team. McCullum will never succeed as an opener in tests, especially since he can't even stay in in ODI's. Debate closed. Permanently.

Well I never said I'd open with mills lol, but seriously it wouldnt make much differenc ethe way things are at the moment. Cause papps has looked horrible and cumming not much better.

Mccullum would definetly do a better job opening. I wouldn't be saying it if we had good openers in this country.. but we don't. I'd be a little happier if how was chosen and given a full season but I doubt it.
Anyway its not like we would miss mccullum's batting at 7 anyway in tests. He only scores 20-30 and gets out anyway unless he is playing vs bangladesh. He certainly hasnt used his talents well at test level imo.

Papps and cumming are not good enough. Debate closed. Permanently. They both remind me of a poor man's Blair pocock/Brian young. Not only do they not score runs- they are boring as hell. I wouldn't mind boring if they were any good.

My worst case scenario is if these two fail again in the next test and get picked vs bangladesh and do well and we will be stuck with them for the rest of the season.

You are a perfect example of someone who wants to play specialists for the sake of it and dont look outside the square. Not all good openers are traditional see off new ball types. Sehwag is a better opener than we have ever had.

Yeah we don't have a sehwag but your argument that papps/cumming are better openers than fleming are dire.
I don't care what flem's "real" position is, he can do a better job opening over a season than these 2 guys.
to be honest from what ive seen in this series papps looks nowehre the same player he did in the 04 odi's vs Sa.
 
I hope Oram stays. Even just for batting. He has looked good today with the bat. He is one of the only batsmen in our team that I have much faith in.
 

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Oram is indeed showing some spine, and Vettori is making quick runs. I have no hope of winning this Test, but it would be really good to see either one of these guys make a century. Preferrably both.
 

Athlai

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Oram is indeed showing some spine, and Vettori is making quick runs. I have no hope of winning this Test, but it would be really good to see either one of these guys make a century. Preferrably both.
We lost this on the 2nd day TBH.
 

Athlai

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Highlight of this match for me thus far:

The brilliant bowling in the first two innings, Martin really impressed me.

Pommie.

Vettori.
 

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Steyn should have had that. Ian O'Brien is batting like a real idiot out there, should be looking to hang around and see how many Vettori can make. Useless ****.
 

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