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ODI Rule Changes

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Three men outside the circle indicates that there will be a move towards having the batting side choosing a power play. They are doing that this year in the Domestic One Day tournament.
 

pup11

International Coach
I think letting the batting sides choose when to enforce a power-play would be stupid since most of teams would choose to use them in the last 10 overs, on the contrary i would like to see a rule where a batting side would be given the choice of using the 2 power-plays from anywhere between the 11th to 40th over period that would ensure that middle over period of Odi cricket doesn't get too predictable.
Atm, most of the bowling teams look to get the power-plays out of the way as soon as possible, due to which power-plays have hardly made any big difference in the nature of Odi cricket.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
I think letting the batting sides choose when to enforce a power-play would be stupid since most of teams would choose to use them in the last 10 overs, on the contrary i would like to see a rule where a batting side would be given the choice of using the 2 power-plays from anywhere between the 11th to 40th over period that would ensure that middle over period of Odi cricket doesn't get too predictable.
Atm, most of the bowling teams look to get the power-plays out of the way as soon as possible, due to which power-plays have hardly made any big difference in the nature of Odi cricket.
I don't know if they'd always do it in the last ten overs really. If you were clever you could probably trap a team like Sri Lanka or NZ and make the spinners and medium pacers play during power plays, either that or force them to bowl in the death because the other team uses their best powerplay bowlers.

Don't like the idea of giving the batting team such power though.
 

Craig

World Traveller
The triangular series is going to be rejigged here - noone cares about matches not featuring Australia (well, at least not in the numbers CA and channel 9 want), and the whole thing drags on too long. I think there was discussion of having two separate series of 5 games a piece or something.

I've gone off triangular series - I'd rather any ODI outside of the CT or WC between two nations to be for the one perpetual trophy between those two countries (ie the equivalent of the Ashes, the Border-Gavaskar or Frank Worrell trophy for Australia and England, India, and West Indies respectively), regardless of where they are played, or who the naming sponsor is. Over time, especially if the games aren't quite as regular as they currently are, the Chappell/Hadlee, Mick Lewis Memorial (for Aust-SA) and "What do we do with a drunken Symo" trophy (Aust-Bang) could come to mean as much as the Test equivalents to players and fans, and thus the interest in ODIs is reinvigorated.

:laugh: Quite good.

If it were me, there would be a limit of of 20 ODIs per country and only a handful of Twenty20's. Otherwise I think we should stop with having so many rule changes you (well I) don't know what is the rules half the time and when you get used to one set of rule changes, another lot comes in, it is getting as bad as rugby, at least when I folled a lot more closely then I do now (about 4 or 5 years ago). I would like to see one year where we are not changing the rules quicker then New Zealand have with opening partnerships. The authorities have made their bed so they should lie in it.
 

pup11

International Coach
TBH, The annual triangular series in Australia is now getting a bit outdated, every team is required to face each four times which makes it look like a dragged series, i think rather than having a 5 match series, the triangular series should stay but each team should only play against each other 3 times and there should only be one final.
 

R_D

International Debutant
TBH, The annual triangular series in Australia is now getting a bit outdated, every team is required to face each four times which makes it look like a dragged series, i think rather than having a 5 match series, the triangular series should stay but each team should only play against each other 3 times and there should only be one final.
playing agiants each other twice enough.... 3 is a drag as well.
I like the new rule change but it would've been could if the power plays weren't allowed to bowled in succession. One of the Power plays should be boelwed after 30 over or so. Would make the middle part of the innings little bit more exciting.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
ODIs are sort of like Mark Nicholas.

They're there.....but noone really cares.
On top of that, he's always on TV, just like the ODIs.

I can't believe so many people are for the free-hit rule. I reckon that's a really ****ty rule change, and I also find it hilarious that beamers don't result in a free hit, but going over the crease by half an inch will.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
On top of that, he's always on TV, just like the ODIs.

I can't believe so many people are for the free-hit rule. I reckon that's a really ****ty rule change, and I also find it hilarious that beamers don't result in a free hit, but going over the crease by half an inch will.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
 

slugger

State Vice-Captain
I think the no ball rule makes alot of sense.. when an umpire calls a no ball proir to the rule change hes telling the batsmen you can do what you like with this ball, cause you wont be given out.. but a batsmen doesnst or rarely does cash in, they have no time to take all that info and produce the best shot possible from changing there mindset to "not get out" from said delivery but get runs aswell to change their mind set "hit the biggest shot possible without any fair of getting out.. if you knew you were facing a no ball before the bowler bowled you would make every effort to cash in on the delivery.. hence the reason for the free hit makes sense to me.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Free Hit is dumb at international level, as is an extra player outside the circle.

The stupidity of free hits is exemplified by them not applying to beamers.
Disagree. Front-foot no-balls are a result of poor thinking; any bowler who has grown into his career making a conscious effort not to bowl no-balls won't bowl them.

Beamers, on the other hand, are purely a result of accident (and if there's ever a case of them not being the bowler should be banned for life IMO).

I've never overstepped the popping-crease in my life but I do bowl a fair few Beamers per season (not anywhere near as many as I used to either). I'm not a skillful enough bowler to cut-out the Beamers; I have been thoughtful enough to not get into the ways of overstepping.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
I don't know if they'd always do it in the last ten overs really. If you were clever you could probably trap a team like Sri Lanka or NZ and make the spinners and medium pacers play during power plays, either that or force them to bowl in the death because the other team uses their best powerplay bowlers.

Don't like the idea of giving the batting team such power though.
Have played in four practice matches where the batting side have been allowed to choose one of the power plays. What I found was that it really benefited the team chasing a heap mroe, as knowing how much they needed to make meant that they could use it more efficiently.

Two reasons why it won't always be taken in the last 5 or so overs:
  1. You want two batsmen in to utilise it, rather than waiting till late where you might have a tail-ender in who won't be able to maximise the powerplay as much as what another batsman would have
  2. You back yourself to score a heap from the last 10 anyways, so you'll actually gain more out of using it during 30-40 overs where you might have only gone at 4 an over, but with the power play you can score 8 per over.
The first reason was one that was very important in deciding when to take it. If you are still only a couple down and going really well, you'd delay it as long as you could. It made wickets all the more important, because if you could make them use the powerplay early, and pressure another wicket out of them during that period, then you could really get on top.
 

FBU

International Debutant
They've always changed the ball around then as it becomes too discoloured for the batsman to be able to see. All that has changed is that previously you'd see the batsman having to ask the umpires, and then a five minute hold up while the umpires conferred and decided, yes the ball is now brown rather than white, and then chose a replacement. They've just set a time in each innings when it will happen. Easily the most sensible of all of the rule changes.

Don't mind the free hit rule either.
If you are a bowler you wouldn't think so.
The only reason the batsmen want the ball changed was because it was starting to reverse and also a newer looking ball was harder. . As for not being able to see it I don't think the opposition fielders go up to the umpire and complain about not being able to see it. The ball starts reversing at about 30-35 overs. The ball that is the replacement is nowhere near 35 overs old. I don't think it should be changed at all.
 

ColdSnow

School Boy/Girl Captain
I would like to see a rule change that would allow one bowler to bowl 12 overs per innings.

another rule change, no runners for injured batters. Either run or go off.
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
I reckon for every wicket a bowler takes, they should be allowed to bowl another over. 0 wickets - 10 over max. 1 wicket - 11 over match. 6 wickets, bowl sixteen overs my son.
 

slugger

State Vice-Captain
first make the game 40 overs per side with teams playing out sets of 20 before the break and the other set after the break. the batting order begins from where they left off from their fist 20.

next rule teams only have 9 wickets. (10 batsmen) the 11th player is your specialist bowler this bowler has an allotment of 12 overs. the max any other player can bowl is 7 overs.

once a player for your team has batting they no longer can be the specialist bowler or once a player has bowled their 8th over they are the speclist bowler therefor they can not bat for you in your team if required.

in this situration the captain can make the decision during the game of who will be the specialist bowler.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
first make the game 40 overs per side with teams playing out sets of 20 before the break and the other set after the break. the batting order begins from where they left off from their fist 20.

next rule teams only have 9 wickets. (10 batsmen) the 11th player is your specialist bowler this bowler has an allotment of 12 overs. the max any other player can bowl is 7 overs.

once a player for your team has batting they no longer can be the specialist bowler or once a player has bowled their 8th over they are the speclist bowler therefor they can not bat for you in your team if required.

in this situration the captain can make the decision during the game of who will be the specialist bowler.


Yeah that sounds amazing..8-)
 

slugger

State Vice-Captain
i dont wanna harp on about it.. but this is how half time should look in an odi.

Aust.
AC Gilchrist__0
ML Hayden__ 35*
BJ Hodge____3
MJ Clarke____ 27
A Symonds___16*
86-3 20 overs. RPO 4.3

IK Pathan____6-0-29-0
S Sreesanth___5-0-33-1
Z Khan______6-1-17-1
H Singh______3-0-6-0
**specialist bowler not identified.

India.
G Gambhir___7
Tendulkar____16
Uthappa______41
Y Singh______10
R Dravid_____15*
MS Dhoni____6*
109-4 20 overs. RPO 5.1

SR Clark____6-0-14-2
JR Hopes____5-0-21-1
MG Johnson _5-0-30-1
B Lee_______4-0-30-0
**specialist bowler not identified
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
alright, can you answer a couple of questions re this format:
a) has it ever actually been tried anywhere?
b) why would it be better than the current format for ODIs? And how would it address what some dislike about ODIs better than 20:20 does?
 

biased indian

International Coach
i dont wanna harp on about it.. but this is how half time should look in an odi.

Aust.
AC Gilchrist__0
ML Hayden__ 35*
BJ Hodge____3
MJ Clarke____ 27
A Symonds___16*
86-3 20 overs. RPO 4.3

IK Pathan____6-0-29-0
S Sreesanth___5-0-33-1
Z Khan______6-1-17-1
H Singh______3-0-6-0
**specialist bowler not identified.

India.
G Gambhir___7
Tendulkar____16
Uthappa______41
Y Singh______10
R Dravid_____15*
MS Dhoni____6*
109-4 20 overs. RPO 5.1

SR Clark____6-0-14-2
JR Hopes____5-0-21-1
MG Johnson _5-0-30-1
B Lee_______4-0-30-0
**specialist bowler not identified
are we going american style 4 quarter games ???
 

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