Richards The Perfectionist - A Genius of His Generation - Imran Khan

[nightprowler10]

Does the figure for 'caught' include being caught in the slips (as opposed to outfield catches etc)?

Yes. Couldn't for the life of me find a filter anywhere that would separate slips and outfield catches. My post was actually a question for the people who watched him play, if he was predominantly caught out playing his shots or not.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

A great article posted about Viv Richards by Sanz in the first post of the thread.I have no doubt that Viv Richards is the 2nd best batsman of alltime.Those who think he is overrated judge him solely on stats & don't try to understand how much he destroyed some of the great bowling attacks of his time & contributed to West Indian victories more than any othr batsman did in history.

 

[Anil]

Sean, if you had to decide on the 2 all-time best West Indies ODI openers, who out of Greenidge, Haynes and Gayle would you leave out?...Just curious

although the question wasn't directed at me, greenidge and haynes were by far the best windies odi openers ever, gayle is good but not half that good...in fact haynes was even better than greenidge in that department, he was incredibly consistent and was a huge presence at the top of the order in odis...

 

[Richard]

Neither did many others mate, his huge three Tests on flat as a tack wickets in Pakistan, where no one else did much, and one Test is SL at the very end of his career

It amazes me, so if he would have taken a five for in Pakistan he would suddendly be the best? Silly, silly argument

No, not at all. Marshall and a few others would still be better than him IMO.

 

[Richard]

Just for Richard may I also say that Viv thought Lillee the best that bowled to him, but hey I am sure he (Viv) is brainwashed like the rest, it must be the Moe?

Never faced Marshall, Garner and Holding in Tests, though, did he?

 

[Richard]

Shall I?....nah

"Fags", just in case there is any doubt (and I doubt there is, but still...), means "cigarrettes" to me and nothing more. I hate it when it's used to mean anything else, frankly, and that includes "servant" and "traitor" too.

 

[Richard]

I missed this post originally. I feel compelled to respond

What ageist crap? You have basically said that my opinion is knee jerk. I don't see that it is when I have been aware of Richards for as long as you have been alive. Thats a long time for an impulsive opinion to be formed

By mentioning you're older than me you're playing the card that this means you're superior in some way - and I disagree.

I get the impression that I am most certainly not the only person who thinks that

Which sums up your rather blinkered ways.

Judging by what you say on here, I deffo wouldnt want to follow the game in the way you appear to. No real passion, very sterile, pretty much the antithesis of what the game is for me. So from my perpsective, it is your loss...you just arent aware of the loss

And I wouldn't want to follow the game the way you do. IMO, it's your loss as you view it in way that, to me, is simplistic.

See, it works both ways.

 

[pasag]

"Fags", just in case there is any doubt (and I doubt there is, but still...), means "cigarrettes" to me and nothing more. I hate it when it's used to mean anything else, frankly, and that includes "servant" and "traitor" too.

So you're saying it has absolutley nothing to do with Tuesday night in Exeter?

I'll stop.

 

[Richard]

He seems to have done a lot of reading and knows a lot more about the history of the game then he did before his last hiatus.

Good spot there actually.

Still though needs to 'give' a little and not think he is always 100% correct

Thing is, I wouldn't bother thinking something if I didn't believe it was correct.

I don't see how anyone can argue that you should think something but not believe it's right.

 

[Richard]

I like Richard but he is just plain wrong about a lot of things

I disagree, in my opinion I'm right on every single thing in history.

He also pontificates on past players he has never actually seen live to help form an opinion on them, e.g, Lillee.

I've seen them, though, extensively in fact, and I've seen lots of other players to make comparisons.

 

[Richard]

Yeah, agree fully (with apologies to Richard who I don't want it to feel like we're 'picking' (for lack of a better word) on him at all, just stuff that needs to be said, imo).

It's nothing that's not been said before TBH, but as I say - I feel the exact opposite in response to those who feel that way about me. And neither of us can be said conclusively to be right (my above post, incidentally, in case anyone doubts, and I thought it was the most obvious thing in history, was in jest).

 

[pasag]

Thing is, I wouldn't bother thinking something if I didn't believe it was correct.

I don't see how anyone can argue that you should think something but not believe it's right.

New information, new arguments. Obvioulsy you're going to belive it's right going into the arguement/debate but that doesn't have to stay that way during and after it.

 

[Richard]

And it doesn't. Whenever I come across new information, I take account of it.

However, some people don't seem to think about the fact that I might already know about some of the stuff that is mentioned.

 

[pasag]

And it doesn't. Whenever I come across new information, I take account of it.

However, some people don't seem to think about the fact that I might already know about some of the stuff that is mentioned.

Yeah, I'm not saying you don't, I don't even agree really with the comment from Archie, I'm just responding to the post I quoted of yours.

 

[Beleg]

wow that six over cover in the video posted by bouncer

the only player i have seen who have comparably majestic aerial shots is ponting

 

[Fiery]

although the question wasn't directed at me, greenidge and haynes were by far the best windies odi openers ever, gayle is good but not half that good...in fact haynes was even better than greenidge in that department, he was incredibly consistent and was a huge presence at the top of the order in odis...

I share your opinion Anil.

 

[adharcric]

I disagree, in my opinion I'm right on every single thing in history.

I've seen them, though, extensively in fact, and I've seen lots of other players to make comparisons.

Expected a "jest" comment there tbh. Good work.

 

[Richard]

Well it was in jest...

Or at least, the top part was.

 

[Fiery]

Thing is, I wouldn't bother thinking something if I didn't believe it was correct.

I don't see how anyone can argue that you should think something but not believe it's right.

It's called learning from others Rich

 

[silentstriker]

So you're saying it has absolutley nothing to do with Tuesday night in Exeter?

I'll stop.

I made you swear not to bring that up again. It was the tequila, I swear.