Choose opening batsmen for all-time ODI XI

[Manee]

Tendulkar and Hayden, graciousness and hard hitting, both scoring fast and highly.

 

[Richard]

Point is, you could have graciousness and hard-hitting with Mark Waugh and Jayasuriya, too, and it'd probably be equally effective.

 

[adharcric]

Point is, you could have graciousness and hard-hitting with Mark Waugh and Jayasuriya, too, and it'd probably be equally effective.

Considering we'd be seeing those two with the same number of votes as Tendulkar in that case, probably not.

 

[Days of Grace]

Quoted by Richard: "Hussain's record is better than Hayden's if you look beyond the obvious"


I want some of what you're on!

 

[DCC_legend]

Hayden and Jayasuriya for mine.

 

[Salamuddin]

I can't believe the number of poeple picking Gilchrist ....reckon Anwar was easily a better player than him and Ganguly too IMO.

Tendulkar and Anwar for mine.

 

[bagapath]

I can't believe the number of poeple picking Gilchrist ....reckon Anwar was easily a better player than him and Ganguly too IMO.

Tendulkar and Anwar for mine.

but you need to have a wicket keeper in the team anyway. gilly averages 36 at a strike rateway above 90. he has scored loads of centuries and fifties as well. while it may be true that anwar and ganguly were marginally better batsman, as an overall package gilchrist has to be the second name in an all time one day XI, after tendulkar as the first opener.

 

[Anil]

but you need to have a wicket keeper in the team anyway. gilly averages 36 at a strike rateway above 90. he has scored loads of centuries and fifties as well. while it may be true that anwar and ganguly were marginally better batsman, as an overall package gilchrist has to be the second name in an all time one day XI, after tendulkar as the first opener.

why can't he be named as the 'keeper...why bring in a lesser opener just because "the guy can also keep"? it's such a ridiculous argument...he can 'keep and bat in the middle order as well and leave the door open for a much classier opener...

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Nathan Astle

 

[bagapath]

why can't he be named as the 'keeper...why bring in a lesser opener just because "the guy can also keep"? it's such a ridiculous argument...he can 'keep and bat in the middle order as well and leave the door open for a much classier opener...

the word "ridiculous" is surprising to me. its not that gilly is a slouch with the bat. he is also a match winning opening batsman - as effective as jayasuriya or anwar on his day. with a far better strike rate than anwar and ganguly and hayden and a better average and strike rate than jayasuriya. has scored enough runs and played considerable number of match winning knocks to be considered purely as a batter too. the keeping ability just seals the case. he is a certainty. the "classier" openers can enter the playing field with the drinks trolley!

 

[Anil]

the word "ridiculous" is surprising to me. its not that gilly is a slouch with the bat. he is also a match winning opening batsman - as effective as jayasuriya or anwar on his day. with a far better strike rate than anwar and ganguly and hayden and a better average and strike rate than jayasuriya. has scored enough runs and played considerable number of match winning knocks to be considered purely as a batter too. the keeping ability just seals the case. he is a certainty. the "classier" openers can enter the playing field with the drinks trolley!

"on his day" just about sums it up...he is not consistent enough to be an opener for an all-time odi xi and his career graph backs up that fact....i was not specifically talking about anwar or ganguly(although anwar would definitely be better than gilchrist), there are other openers in that list who are even better than these guys, the point is gilchrist is so far from being the 2nd best opener in one dayers(tendulkar being the inarguable no: 1) that he shouldn't even be in contention for that spot....i can understand him being in contention for the team because of his good 'keeping skills and exceptional batting(that great strike rate that everyone throws around in his defence), he can serve an all-time team well as a 'keeper and an explosive middle order bat....

 

[Days of Grace]

For me, the all-time world XI should have batsmen batting in the postions that they have been famous for. Gilly has always been an ODI opener.

 

[Anil]

For me, the all-time world XI should have batsmen batting in the postions that they have been famous for. Gilly has always been an ODI opener.

once again, setting aside the 'keeper argument, he is just not good enough as an opener to make an all-time side...

 

[R_D]

once again, setting aside the 'keeper argument, he is just not good enough as an opener to make an all-time side...

I'd have to agree with Anil here, but in the end you have to look at overall balance of the team and with Gilchrist being the opener/keeper, this leaves alot of room to create the perfetly balanced team.

I'm just suprised people are actually voting for Hayden.

 

[bagapath]

gilly has done a lot of damage to so many bowlers in the first 15 overs with field restrictions in place. he is the ideal one day opener for me. average above 35. strike rate above 90. lefty, complimenting the right handed sachin at the other end.

i dont think it'll be inappropriate to list the all time one day xi chosen by a panel of experts for cricinfo a couple of months ago.

tendulkar
gilchrist+
richards
ponting
lara
symonds
imran
hadlee
akram
warne
garner

i hope we select a better team. lets wait and see.

 

[The_Bunny]

gilly has done a lot of damage to so many bowlers in the first 15 overs with field restrictions in place. he is the ideal one day opener for me. average above 35. strike rate above 90. lefty, complimenting the right handed sachin at the other end.

i dont think it'll be inappropriate to list the all time one day xi chosen by a panel of experts for cricinfo a couple of months ago.

tendulkar
gilchrist+
richards
ponting
lara
symonds
imran
hadlee
akram
warne
garner

i hope we select a better team. lets wait and see.

So far this team is almost the same

 

[Days of Grace]

I don't think there will be a Symonds or a Hadlee in our team.

 

[Richard]

Quoted by Richard

Is there any particular reason not to use the normal quote method?

I want some of what you're on!

Nah, have fully argued the case elsewhere.

 

[Richard]

gilly has done a lot of damage to so many bowlers in the first 15 overs with field restrictions in place. he is the ideal one day opener for me. average above 35. strike rate above 90. lefty, complimenting the right handed

Why not have someone with a much better average and a slightly lower strike-rate like Anwar or Ganguly?

 

[Richard]

For me, the all-time world XI should have batsmen batting in the postions that they have been famous for. Gilly has always been an ODI opener.

Aside from the fact he hasn't "always" been (played a fair few ODIs before being promoted to open) that's a wholly silly argument - you pick the best team, simple as. You pick the best men to open the batting, and there have been quite a few better ODI openers than Gilchrist. It's perfectly possible that Mahendra Dhoni will become a better wicketkeeper-batsman than him, too.