***Official** West Indies in England***

[Richard]

I suppose. And it's possible I'll not be watching so much as a single ball of it as I'm at work till 5:30 tomorrow, then off out with the missus, then off to Wales this weekend, then at work all day Monday and Tuesday.

Sounds like there won't be much play anyway, though.

 

[roseboy64]

(Isn't it something that a Test starts tomorrow and most of the last 50 or so posts have been about Ska and New Romantic? )

Yeah it is. Please stop.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Aye - it's hard to get excited about this one, isn't it.

Unless you're Shivnarine Chanderpaul and poised on 6,976 Test runs.

 

[wpdavid]

Unless you're Shivnarine Chanderpaul and poised on 6,976 Test runs.

Cue 5 days rain

 

[Richard]

Unless you're Shivnarine Chanderpaul and poised on 6,976 Test runs.

Deduct Bangladesh and some Zimbabwe.

 

[roseboy64]

Runs are runs IMO.

 

[Richard]

Of course. But runs against Exeter Third XI and runs against New Zealand "A" are clearly different in their currency.

 

[pasag]

LOL at the past few pages.

 

[Richard]

At least you didn't have to go this close to throwing in a Rolleyes again.

 

[pasag]

At least you didn't have to go this close to throwing in a Rolleyes again.

Indeed. You crossed 35k overnight? Nice stuff.

 

[Richard]

Haha, so I did. Barely notice these things these days, TBH.

Will probably post in the Milestones thread now though.

 

[roseboy64]

Of course. But runs against Exeter Third XI and runs against New Zealand "A" are clearly different in their currency.

Zimbabwe and Bangladesh are Test sides. Those other two aren't.

 

[roseboy64]

Only way runs should differ in terms of difference between say Pakistan and Zimbabwe is in a case of how much they score against them e.g Sarwan's runs against Bangladesh. AFAIK Lara hasn't scored heavily against either of Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. The oppostion may be weak but you still have to score.

 

[Perm]

Zimbabwe and Bangladesh are Test sides. Those other two aren't.

But they are substandard, that is what Richard is getting at. I can see your point of view, for example we would consider runs against a weak 2nd XI the same as we would consider runs against a strong 2nd XI, even if the weak side didn't deserve to be in the same competition.

 

[Perm]

AFAIK Lara hasn't scored heavily against either of Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

Average of 86.50 against Bangladesh and 55.50 against Zimbabwe.

 

[roseboy64]

Ooh that was quick. Meh....

 

[roseboy64]

But they are substandard, that is what Richard is getting at. I can see your point of view, for example we would consider runs against a weak 2nd XI the same as we would consider runs against a strong 2nd XI, even if the weak side didn't deserve to be in the same competition.

Yeah that's my point.

 

[Perm]

Yeah that's my point.

BUT since the standard of cricket is on a much higher level, then I think it is understandable that Richard doesn't like to include runs scored against Bangladesh and weak Zimbabwe. I myself usually take out runs scored against these two opponents if I am indulging in a proper debate.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Deduct Bangladesh and some Zimbabwe.

...and he averages a run more than his career average. What's your point?

I can't believe you're trying to, in any way, discredit the career record of such a hardworking, fighting cricketer as Chanderpaul. Oh wait, I actually can believe it.

 

[roseboy64]

BUT since the standard of cricket is on a much higher level, then I think it is understandable that Richard doesn't like to include runs scored against Bangladesh and weak Zimbabwe. I myself usually take out runs scored against these two opponents if I am indulging in a proper debate.

Don't see how it matters really. They're considered Test class sides by their status and as such runs scored/wickets taken against them should be viewed as such. Just as runs scored against Scotland in ODs adds to a batsman's average and may help in him being selected for ODIs so should the runs he scores against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe in ODIs.