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Nice video from the Telegraph newspaper on Adil Rashid

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Haha, fascinating...

Great stuff from the Torygraph, TBH, Simon Hughes is too good for them.

I'd say Rashid is more of a slightly taller Mushtaq Ahmed than a slightly shorter Kumble, his action is perhaps 90% Mushtaq and 10% Kumble.

Anyway... let's hope it's not all a fuss about nothing. :)
 

Woodster

International Captain
From those clips and his form this season, it would certainly insinuate he is capable with the bat also.
 

Pup Clarke

Cricketer Of The Year
That was very,very interesting. Really like the look of Rashid but he can't be rushed into the England set up to soon. I'd say give him 2-3 years of hard county cricket before making a decision on his international future. I say look what happened to Chris Schofield. In 2000 he was playing for England an on a central vcontract and then in 2005 he was unemployed and looking for a county.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
That was very,very interesting. Really like the look of Rashid but he can't be rushed into the England set up to soon. I'd say give him 2-3 years of hard county cricket before making a decision on his international future. I say look what happened to Chris Schofield. In 2000 he was playing for England an on a central vcontract and then in 2005 he was unemployed and looking for a county.
Wasn't he playing for Bedfordshire or someone crap like that? :laugh:
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Does have quite a high arm action. Hughes says he turns his leggie a lot, but generally wrist-spinners with the higher actions (Kumble, White) tend not to be. Mind you, if he's half the bowler Kumble's been, ta very much, you'll do, son!

Interestingly tho in the match the footage is from Younis Khan outbowled him with his very part-time leg-spin.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Of all the guys at Yorkshire and around the circuit the person Rahid (and also Lawson who seems to be almost ignored) should talk to sits in the very same dressing room as him already.

He needs to talk to a failed leg-spinning protoge. That man is Jacques Rudolph.

Rudolph was seen as a massive talent (Im friends with a guy that was his main coach until he was 18/19) and his bowling declined dramatically after that.

He would be the man to warn of the pitfalls and what needs to be avoided.
 

Pup Clarke

Cricketer Of The Year
He needs to talk to a failed leg-spinning protoge. That man is Jacques Rudolph.

Rudolph was seen as a massive talent (Im friends with a guy that was his main coach until he was 18/19) and his bowling declined dramatically after that.

He would be the man to warn of the pitfalls and what needs to be avoided.
Didn't know that about Rudolph. Always thought he was a part time leg spinner but when I saw him bowl (England in 2003) he looked more than useful. He also got Hussain's wicket caught and bowled if I remember.:laugh:
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Which fits nicely enough in that Hussain was also a failed wristspinner - though he had become a batsman by 16, a bit younger than Rudolph.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Does have quite a high arm action. Hughes says he turns his leggie a lot, but generally wrist-spinners with the higher actions (Kumble, White) tend not to be. Mind you, if he's half the bowler Kumble's been, ta very much, you'll do, son!
I honestly don't think Kumble would have been much use had he been English. Great bowler on spin-receptive pitches, but not up to much at all on a typical English one.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
From those clips and his form this season, it would certainly insinuate he is capable with the bat also.
From everything I've heard, he's actually more of a batsman than a bowler. Certainly his legspin got less notice than his batting until his first-team debut.
 

Albion

Cricket Spectator
Interestingly tho in the match the footage is from Younis Khan outbowled him with his very part-time leg-spin.
I wouldn't pay too much attention to that - Shane Warne had very similar figures to Rashid on that pitch.

FYI, there is also a video further down that list on Owais Shah, if anyones interested.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Just a point on Jaques Rudolphs decline as a leg-spinner (much attributed to the ill advice of a certain famous leg-spin coach)

He played in 2 U'19 WCs

In 1998 he bowled 47 overs and was the first mentioned spinner in this article on SA using spin against Zim.

http://rsa.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat...CC/U19-WC1998/ARTICLES/RSA_PLAN_ZIM_20JAN1998

1998 U'19 WC article said:
the notoriously slow pitch at St
George's Park could give the selectors a chance to go in with
their three spinners: Jacques Rudolph, Robin Petersen and Goolam
Bodi.
In 1999/2000 he bowled a grand total of 5 overs in the comp and this World Cup was in Sri Lanka where you would expect a spinner to feature.

It was a dramatic fall and his bowling had come apart. Rashid could learn a lot from talking to him about what can go wrong.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Just a point on Jaques Rudolphs decline as a leg-spinner (much attributed to the ill advice of a certain famous leg-spin coach)

He played in 2 U'19 WCs

In 1998 he bowled 47 overs and was the first mentioned spinner in this article on SA using spin against Zim.

http://rsa.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat...CC/U19-WC1998/ARTICLES/RSA_PLAN_ZIM_20JAN1998



In 1999/2000 he bowled a grand total of 5 overs in the comp and this World Cup was in Sri Lanka where you would expect a spinner to feature.

It was a dramatic fall and his bowling had come apart. Rashid could learn a lot from talking to him about what can go wrong.
The story of the failed wristspinner, I suspect, is not a terribly unusual one. Rudolph and Hussain are the two cases that come first to my mind, but as I say - I can't shake the feeling that there'll be many out there.
 

Woodster

International Captain
Mike Atherton was another failed wrist spinner wasn't he ? But with his back, bowling was never going to be a major part of his cricketing days!
 

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