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yeah, I noticed he's been playing for his average too![]()
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yeah, I noticed he's been playing for his average too![]()
in some cases probably. Definitely doesn't cover the whole issue though.b) is because of a) IMO. An opinion I've held for quite a while as well. Anyways, probably the wrong thread for this.
Right. I'm not strongly disagreeing with any of that really and I would never begrudge a side that won, say Sri Lanka, New Zealand or South Africa in this World Cup. However, in general as a sports follower, I don't like supporting the underdog in finals situations and I rather the side that has dominated throughout the year and has clearly been the best win it. That's just me however. When my side Carlton got into the 99 Grand Final, they didn't deserve to be there, they fluked their way in and where no way near the second best side in the comp. More like 6th best and when they lost the Grand Final convincingly I wasn't even that upset because we didn't deserve to win (if we did, like 93 I'd be inconsolable).This sort of comment has its downsides and is not entirely valid.
Take for example the 1996 World Cup. Everyone would agree that Aus was the best team leading upto the final. SL caused probably the biggest upset in world cricket at the time by winning the final, and that too relatively easily.
Everyone thought it was a flash in the pan and that Aus just had a bad day (if you were an Aus fan)
A few weeks after the final, Steve Waugh even went onto say in an interview that "Its a pity that we lost to SL...if we had played them 10 times, we would have won 9 times" - Bert Newton show, Channel 9.
What happened next? Aus toured SL a few months later for the Singer Cup. They lost to SL in the preliminary game in a close contest. Then the Lankans walloped Aus in the Singer Cup Final. Suddenly, it was 3 played, 3 lost to the so called top dog.
Now go back to Pasag's original comment. Perhaps you may think a bit differently.
The champions is the winner of the final - no ifs and buts....the whole campaign to win a cup must be geared towards this goal. Not just maintaining for a the longest period of time.
yeah, I noticed he's been playing for his average too![]()
Well aren't you just such a great person...I guess it comes down to whether you admire them for winning, like I do, or get pissed off with them because they win all the time, like you do.
Not really, just pointing out the difference in our opinoin.Well aren't you just such a great person...
G'day Perm. I have to be on my best behaviour. I'm on a final warning from James. He has organised a probation officer to check on me daily. Not sure who that is yet...probably RichardYou're backGood to see, the Watson love has been out of control after that knock he played against us, we need you to put those damn Aussies back in their place.
No offence to the Aussies on this board....but there are too many 'pansies' or 'poofs' in your current side.
I don't think the likes of Watson or Clark (or anyone with blonde hair for that matter) will be able to handle the pressure of a World Cup final. I'd rather have the mongrel street smarts of a Craig McMillan or Piggy Styris any day of the week over a bunch of fairies.
Have I mentioned the canary yellow yet?
Yeah, Ponting, Hayden and McGrath get criticised for being to hard, too one-eyed (admittedly not by you), Watson and others get criticised for being too soft. There is literally no winning with some and as I said before, things start going into the irrational to try and find ways to dislike the team when at the end of the day, it's because they win alot and chances are they've beaten your side recently.No offence to the Aussies on this board....but there are too many 'pansies' or 'poofs' in your current side.
I don't think the likes of Watson or Clark (or anyone with blonde hair for that matter) will be able to handle the pressure of a World Cup final. I'd rather have the mongrel street smarts of a Craig McMillan or Piggy Styris any day of the week over a bunch of fairies.
Have I mentioned the canary yellow yet?
Basically what it comes down to is people like to find excuses to criticise them, becausing disliking them simply for being Australian isn't really much of a reason.Yeah, Ponting, Hayden and McGrath get criticised for being to hard, too one-eyed (admittedly not by you), Watson and others get criticised for being too soft. There is literally no winning with some and as I said before, things start going into the irrational to try and find ways to dislike the team when at the end of the day, it's because they win alot and chances are they've beaten your side recently.
It's a fair price to pay for whooping all your arses though(**** of Cameron)
Adam Gilchrist is an honourary non-Aussie.Says the one with an Aussie in his avatar![]()
Exactly, he should be worshipped around the world as a god of cricket.Adam Gilchrist is an honourary non-Aussie.
He's a bit too likeable to be in the current team.
I agree with that, but on one condition that SL at full strength could've tested them at Grenada , although I don't know if they will if they happen to get to Bridgetown where the conditions will favour the Aussies.I know it may be a bit much to ask, but I'd still like to see at least one "neutral" fan come in here and say something to the tune of "I'd like to see Australia win it because they have the best side at the moment, have played the best cricket in the tournament and hence deserve it the most." Still yet to happen and I somehow doubt it will now, but it's a perfectly sound reasoning that I'm somewhat surprised hasn't been considered yet.
Agree with this too.Just because it might get boring for (some) to see Aussies win all the time doesn't mean that the Aussies are getting anything on a platter, they have worked their backsides off to remain so consistent for such a long time so all credit needs to go to them.
Other teams just haven't been good enough to match upto the Aussies, so i would love to see the Aussies win and be crowned as the (deserving) world champions for the 3rd time in a row.
Chasing 226? Highly doubtful tbh - If SL's batsman had made 260/270 I'd agree with you.I agree with that, but on one condition that SL at full strength could've tested them at Grenada , although I don't know if they will if they happen to get to Bridgetown where the conditions will favour the Aussies.
Murali, Vaas, Malinga have managed to restrict a lot of Teams under 200 -230, and with the conditions at Grenada , there is a very high possibility Aussies would've struggled against Murali and Malinga at Grenada. I am not saying that SL would've won, but it would've been a close run thing IMO.Chasing 226? Highly doubtful tbh - If SL's batsman had made 260/270 I'd agree with you.