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Super Eight

Swervy

International Captain
Yeah, I think Swervy is putting far too much emphasis on the partnership of Bell and KP. Whilst it was very good, and put England in a good position. it was still only 20-25 overs max (can't quite remember) of the match. The rest of it, Australia were well on top.

I think if you are 161/2 after 28 overs with two batsmen well set, you are competing. Yeah of course Australia got back into it after that, but even after 30 overs of the Australian innings, the game could have conceivably gone either way. If England had have got say another 20 runs and maybe a tad more luck when in the field, England could well have won that game.

Jono, I am an Australian fan. I dont accept that a team that allows 377 odd is competing particularly well. I will accept that if we beat a team with a couple of overs to spare, in the end it is comfortable but it isnt a easy win.

At no point in the SA vs Australia game were SA genuinely favourites to win. The bookies may have installed them as faves at that time, simply because they (and the punters) instantly hark back to a one off freak result a couple of seasons back. Realistically, SA were never going to win that game. But even if we do say SA were in it for a bit, they werent in it as much as England were for most of the game. An England victory was conceivable for 60% of yesterdays game...its quite competitive in my book
 

pup11

International Coach
Black Caps seriously have lacked professionalism in their game today and Ireland has made them pay for that.
 

Swervy

International Captain
Ridiculous statement really, I reckon Australian fans felt much safer 10 overs into the second innings vs. Eng than vs. SA.
its tricky to say really, completely different situations. Chasing 377 and being 70/0 after ten or 160/0 after 20 proably equates the same as 90/2 after 20 chasing 250. Fact is SA didnt compete in the field at all, at least England were the team on top for large chunks of yesterdays game
Just because we have been scarred (hopefully not not life:) ) by 434 doesnt mean that chasing an equally improbable 377 (given the conditions etc) is going to be likely. Even after 20 overs, SA being whatever they were (170 ish) , chasing such a big total, its nothing more than a flying start
 

Swervy

International Captain
Not from where I was watching. Aus never looked in any trouble at any stage
well neither did SA when needing 4 to win with 5 wickets down vs Sri lanka.

For me chasing 250 and being 90/2 after 20 isnt enitrely in the chasing teams favour, its a score that should be chased down but all too many times it can go wrong.

The instant I felt Australia were going to deffo win was just after the second drinks break
 

GGG

State Captain
This is the reason Franklin gets the nod above our other average bowlers, like I said he is no mug.
 

MoxPearl

State Vice-Captain
go franklin!

Put him as opener :D

Edit: Holy **** @ franklins profile picture they just put on TV... he looks insane
 

Nishant

International 12th Man
It'll still be too many for Ireland. It's not that bad a score really, 250 odd. Slowish outfield too
True...i think that ireland have let it go a bit here...187-7 or something was really good and now they seem to be staring down the barrel of chasing 250 odd!
 

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