Can you name an ODI team to beat the All-Time Australian XI?

[Craig]

As the title says, can you name a side that would be the recently named Australian all-time ODI XI (the title I got it wrong on my behalf and I apologise if it is slightly misleading) although I should stress it is for fun, but if you want to debate about it, I can't stop you.

Anyway:

Sanath Jayasuriya
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
*Viv Richards
Inzamam ul-Haq
Lance Klusener
+Mark Boucher
Shaun Pollock
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Muttiah Muralitharan

12th: Jacques Kallis

I tried to select this team on balance and I have probably made some glarring omissions, so tell me anyway. Guys like Dravid, and Kallis (well to start), Imran Khan, Allan Donald, Saqlain Mushtaq, Sourav Ganguly and some more are all a bit stiff to miss out.

I wanted a regular left-hand, right-hand batting combination, I felt Inzy would be best served at 5, then Dravid or Kallis, Lara or Richards could swap places, so it is very flexible, and I wanted a hitter at 6 or 7 and I felt Klusener and Boucher were the mean for the job.

Wasim and Waqar with the new ball, and Pollock is the best man for 8 and would be perfect at first change, and I needed a spinner and Murali fits the bill, and Klusener and/or Richard can fit in the other ten.

So what do you think?

EDIT: can somebody please add 'alltime' to Australian all time XI

 

[irfan]

Overall, your team is very good.

However, I'd prefer Flintoff to Klusener (simply because he's a much better bowler) and even though he's not one of my favorites; Kallis over Inzy (offers a lot more on the field and can act as a foil around Fred, Viv and Boucher.)

I would have swapped Sanga for Boucher had there been a spot in the top 4 but since Boucher is at 7, I feel Boucher is a lot more suited to that position. McCullum wud probably usurp him in the future tho.

Yea anywayz I'd back this team to beat an alltime AUS ODI XI 7/10.

 

[silentstriker]

That bowling attack really doesn't have any weaknesses. The batting is not as great as I'd like though.

 

[Pup Clarke]

What about

Sourav Ganguly
Sanath Jayasuriya
Kumar Sangakkara
Jacques Kallis
Brian Lara
Lance Klusener
Andrew Flintoff
Shaun Pollock
Wasim Akram
Saqlain Mushtaq
Allan Donald

 

[Richard]

Hmm....
Anwar
Ganguly
Lara
Tendulkar
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Dhoni
Flintoff
Pollock
Wasim Akram
Donald
Muralitharan
Would be something like my choice, personally...

But you could probably name 2 or 3 other sides just as strong.

 

[haroon510]

Hmm....
Anwar
Ganguly
Lara
Tendulkar
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Dhoni
Flintoff
Pollock
Wasim Akram
Donald
Muralitharan
Would be something like my choice, personally...

But you could probably name 2 or 3 other sides just as strong.

very good and balanced side but i would pick kumara sangakara for dhoni and pick lance klusnar for freddy. saqlain as 12 man incase any of these players miss out.

 

[Richard]

Flintoff is a better bowler than Klusener has ever been, really, and that's what's needed more in that side I picked.

Sangakkara, meanwhile, is a top-order batsman and good as he is, IMO there are better ones than him. There aren't many better lower-order strokeplayers than Dhoni, who I'd consider pretty seriously as a batsman alone.

 

[Johnners]

Vincent
Fleming
Fulton
Taylor
Styris
McMillian
McCullum
Vettori
Tuffey
Bond
Gillespie

 

[vic_orthdox]

Haha, don't be daft.

They don't need Bond or Vettori.

 

[FRAZ]

Vincent
Fleming
Fulton
Taylor
Styris
McMillian
McCullum
Vettori
Tuffey
Bond
Gillespie

haha ha ha

 

[NZTailender]

Haha, don't be daft.

They don't need Bond or Vettori.

Bond and Vettori are overkill, tbh.

 

[NZTailender]

I feel that career averages vs Australia should be brought into this for some of the names mentioned.

The good:

Sachin Tendulkar

                     Mat  Runs  HS   BatAv 100  50   W    BB  BowlAv 5w  Ct St
unfiltered           381 14783 186*  44.12  41  76 147  5/32   44.02  2 115  0
[B]filtered              47  2183 143   46.44   7  11  20  5/32   39.25  1  21  0[/B]

Brian Lara

unfiltered           290 10136 169   40.54  19  62   4  2/5    15.25  0 115  0
[B]filtered              50  1781 139   38.71   3  14   0   -       -    0  19  0[/B]

Sir Viv

unfiltered           187  6721 189*  47.00  11  45 118  6/41   35.83  2 100  0
[B]filtered              54  2187 153*  50.86   3  20  32  3/29   41.53  0  20  0[/B]

Shaun Pollock

unfiltered           274  2969  75   24.94   0  11 373  6/35   23.74  5 102  0
[B]filtered              43   619  69   23.80   0   2  56  5/36   28.10  1  13  0[/B]

Wasim Akram

unfiltered           356  3717  86   16.52   0   6 502  5/15   23.52  6  88  0
[B]filtered              49   806  86   20.15   0   1  67  5/21   27.43  1   8  0[/B]

Murali

unfiltered           287   488  27    5.80   0   0 432  7/30   23.07  8 112  0
[B]filtered              32    55  27    6.11   0   0  46  4/27   29.84  0  13  0[/B]

Kumar Sangakkara

unfiltered           189  5476 138*  36.26   6  36   -   -       -    - 166 48
[B]filtered              22   925 101   46.25   1   6   -   -       -    -  10  6[/B]

Saqlain Mushtaq

unfiltered           169   711  37*  11.85   0   0 288  5/20   21.78  6  40  0
[B]filtered              17   106  37*  11.77   0   0  27  5/29   23.33  1   2  0[/B]

Allan Donald

unfiltered           164    95  13    4.31   0   0 272  6/23   21.78  2  28  0
[B]filtered              30    24  11    3.42   0   0  45  4/29   25.97  0   5  0[/B]

The in-between:

Inzamam Ul-Haq

                     Mat  Runs  HS   BatAv 100  50   W    BB  BowlAv 5w  Ct St
unfiltered           375 11665 137*  39.67  10  83   3  1/0    21.33  0 109  0
[B]filtered              34   991  91*  31.96   0   9   -   -       -    -   5  0[/B]

Lance Klusener (due to his bowling, but his batting is very fine)

unfiltered           171  3576 103*  41.10   2  19 192  6/49   29.95  6  35  0
[B]filtered              26   794  92   44.11   0   5  26  5/24   38.19  1   3  0[/B]

Mark Boucher

unfiltered           233  3607 147*  27.96   1  21   -   -       -    - 335 18
[B]filtered              27   498  76   24.90   0   5   -   -       -    -  38  2[/B]

Jacques Kallis

unfiltered           247  8520 139   44.37  14  59 225  5/30   31.01  2  95  0
[B]filtered              37  1094 104*  31.25   1   7  27  3/30   46.11  0  11  0[/B]

Andrew Flintoff

unfiltered           115  2984 123   33.52   3  16 122  4/14   26.41  0  36  0
[B]filtered              20   515  87   30.29   0   1  18  3/23   42.94  0   4  0[/B]

The bad:

Sanath Jayasuriya

                     Mat  Runs  HS   BatAv 100  50   W    BB  BowlAv 5w  Ct St
unfiltered           379 11538 189   32.87  23  62 285  6/29   36.96  4 111  0
[B]filtered              41   849 122   22.34   2   3  28  5/28   45.03  1  11  0[/B]

Waqar Younis

unfiltered           262   969  37   10.30   0   0 416  7/36   23.84 13  35  0
[B]filtered              30   202  37   12.62   0   0  29  6/59   40.75  1   3  0[/B]

Sourav Ganguly

unfiltered           286 10470 183   41.22  22  64  94  5/16   37.37  2  98  0
[B]filtered              30   647 100   22.31   1   4   7  3/41   46.42  0  12  0[/B]

Saeed Anwar

unfiltered           247  8823 194   39.21  20  43   6  2/9    31.83  0  42  0
[B]filtered              30   683 104*  23.55   1   0   1  1/15   49.00  0   6  0[/B]

Worthy a mention?:

Shane Bond

                     Mat  Runs  HS   BatAv 100  50   W    BB  BowlAv 5w  Ct St
unfiltered            59   198  31*  15.23   0   0 112  6/19   19.66  4  12  0
[B]filtered              11    40  26   13.33   0   0  34  6/23   13.88  3   5  0[/B]

Martin Crowe

unfiltered           143  4704 107*  38.55   4  34  29  2/9    32.89  0  66  0
[B]filtered              35  1096 100*  35.35   1   8  10  2/9    25.30  0  24  0[/B]

Sir Paddles

unfiltered           115  1751  79   21.61   0   4 158  5/25   21.56  5  27  0
[B]filtered              36   582  79   20.06   0   1  46  5/26   22.91  1   8  0[/B]

Aravinda de Silva

unfiltered           308  9284 145   34.90  11  64 106  4/30   39.40  0  95  0
[B]filtered              36  1451 107*  48.36   2  10  14  3/42   50.92  0   7  0[/B]

Mohammed Yousuf

unfiltered           233  7853 141*  41.77  12  52   0   -       -    0  50  0
[B]filtered              24   890 100   40.45   1   6   -   -       -    -   2  0[/B]

Desmond Haynes

unfiltered           238  8648 152*  41.37  17  57   0   -       -    0  59  0
[B]filtered              64  2262 148   40.39   6  13   -   -       -    -  16  0[/B]

Graeme Hick

unfiltered           120  3846 126*  37.33   5  27  30  5/33   34.20  1  64  0
[B]filtered              13   472 109   39.33   2   2   4  3/41   27.00  0   5  0[/B]

Ntini!

unfiltered           144   158  42*   9.87   0   0 231  6/22   22.94  4  27  0
[B]filtered              19    18  11    9.00   0   0  29  6/22   29.00  1   4  0[/B]

Ambrose

unfiltered           176   639  31*  10.65   0   0 225  5/17   24.12  4  45  0
[B]filtered              41   166  23    8.73   0   0  61  5/17   21.80  3  11  0[/B]

Chris Harris

unfiltered           250  4379 130   29.00   1  16 203  5/42   37.50  1  96  0
[B]filtered              38   887 130   38.56   1   4  31  3/37   37.51  0  14  0[/B]

Can't really comment:

MS Dhoni

                     Mat  Runs  HS   BatAv 100  50   W    BB  BowlAv 5w  Ct St
unfiltered            66  1958 183*  46.61   2  12   -   -       -    -  61 12
[B]filtered               3    51  28   25.50   0   0   -   -       -    -   4  0[/B]

1. Haynes
2. Tendulkar
3. Viv
4. de Silva
5. Lara
6. Sangakkara+
7. Hadlee
8. Akram
9. Mushtaq
10. Ambrose
11. Donald

12th: S Bond (due to injury/lack of games)

 

[C_C]

For me :

Tendulkar
Haynes
Viv
Lara
deSilva
Sangakkara+
Kapil
Pollock
Wasim
Garner
Murali

 

[oz_fan]

1. Desmond Haynes
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Viv Richards
4. Brian Lara
5. Aravinda de Silva
6. Kumar Sangakarra
7. Lance Klusener
8. Shaun Pollock
9. Wasim Akram
10. Joel Garner
11. Muralitharin

 

[Craig]

That bowling attack really doesn't have any weaknesses. The batting is not as great as I'd like though.

So who would you swap in the batting line-up?

.

 

[nightprowler10]

Sanath Jayasuriya
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
*Viv Richards
Inzamam ul-Haq
Lance Klusener
+Mark Boucher
Shaun Pollock
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Muttiah Muralitharan

12th: Jacques Kallis

Pretty tight team for mine. Only weak link is Sanath IMO. Not consistent enough. Perhaps use either Saurav or Anwar?

 

[Craig]

Would it be fair to say Mark Boucher is a much better then Moin Khan was?

 

[gunsainter]

This is from todays cricket:
MS Dhoni+
G Smith
R Dravid
B Lara
K Pietersen
M Hussey
J Kallis
A Flintoff
S Pollock
S Clark
M Murilitharan

I realise there are two aussies in there but they werent included in best ever odi aus XI so i should be able 2 use them

 

[Craig]

Stuart Clark?

Not bad for a guy who is only going to the World Cup because of injury.

 

[gunsainter]

at his best he is one of the best in the world- came off a fantastic ashes series. him and hussey have been done a rough deal by being kept out for so long