Almost word-for-word what I was going to say.2004 Champions Trophy final anyone?!
yeah..not exactly a comeback thoughWell a team did score 324 in 37.3 overs not so long ago but it was for the loss of just 2 wickets there...
but not surprising, I dont think it was anywhere near the acheivement of what NZ did, simply because England were really absolutely disgraceful at that time.Well it was a second-innings and I assure you most English fans (not that there were a huge number watching that game what with events on the continent) were of the idea "finally we've got a game in the bag!"
It wasn't a mid-innings comeback but it certainly was an astonishing run-chase.
Disgraceful???? A bit harsh I think.Oh - England have been disgraceful in ODIs for most of the last 6 years, BTW.
Come on, then - how often have England been something other?
The only time since 2000 that England have played all that well in ODIs for more than 1 or 2 games at a time was very, very recently (and even that was just on the inspiration of 1 or 2 players and not a little good fortune), for a short time in the summer of 2003 (which was not dissimilar in circumstance) and in Zimbabwe in 2001\02.
England were abysmal bar 1 game in the winter of 2000\01.
England were God-awful in the summer of 2001.
England were pretty damn terrible in both India and New Zealand in the winter of 2001\02. The result-list is a grossly flattering thing.
England were poor in the summer of 2002. Somehow they still managed to make the final of the NWS, though.
England were very, very poor in the midsummer of 2004, and a little better (but not as much as the results suggest) in the autumn.
England were appalling in the winter of 2004\05.
England were pretty average in the summer of 2005. With the exception of that one game at Headingley.
And they were awful in the winter of 2005\06.
And the summer of 2006, too.
And most of the winter of 2006\07, before one of the more astonishing sneak-ups in ODI long-tournament history.
no...just that I couldnt be bothered doing anything but just scan what you typed out there.In other words "I've run-out of things to say, I was wrong to question you ITFP".
Then why bother posting a reply at all?no...just that I couldnt be bothered doing anything but just scan what you typed out there.
And I provided reasons as to why I hold my opinion - you did not.I still think to say they have been disgraceful for basically six years is harsh..its my opinion, you have yours, leave it at that hey!!!
but its not about defeat or victory, I am not hear to score points or W's in the win column, you said Engalnd have been a disgrace at ODIs for 6 years, I said that was a bit unfair, you reel off a list of performances, with your opinions about their worth, I quickly looked at them, didnt make a big deal of a subject that isnt even the topic of the thread.Then why bother posting a reply at all?
IMO there's nothing more discrediting than a post that's just "whatever"; "whatever you say"; etc. It's just trying to put defeat across as victory.
And I provided reasons as to why I hold my opinion - you did not.