Is Asif the best young pacer now?

[itduzz]

Mitchell Johnson, Sreesanth or Asif? Discuss

 

[Jono]

Obviously Asif.

 

[rolande]

Mitchell Johnson by a mile. That guy is gonna have a long career and it will be a good one too.

 

[ripper868]

Johnson...so long as he stays away from the wacky tabaccy...

 

[Tim]

that's ridiculous to rate Johnson ahead of Asif when Asif has been damaging in both forms of the game. Johnson hasn't even played test cricket yet.

 

[Jono]

Haha I know.

Asif is already ranked #8 in the ICC test bowler rankings, after only playing 9 tests yet Johnson is better than him?

 

[tooextracool]

Asif is certainly the most proven out of all the current young seamers, and probably potentially the best too. Im actually quite satisfied with the state of fast bowling at the moment. There are several promising young fast bowlers around the world ATM, and its certainly better than the sorry state from a few years ago. The bowlers who were in the same position 5 years ago or so who should be in their prime now- Ntini, Hoggard, Flintoff, Bond, Harmison, Nel, Sami, Nehra have all due to injury or just not being good enough merely amounted to good but nothing special(less so in the case of Harmison, Sami and Nehra). Consequently the quality of international cricket has declined and only Australia has managed to maintain any sort of standard.
At least with Asif, Steyn, Taylor, Gul, Sreesanth, possibly Anderson and Johnson the future looks a lot brighter, although injury and other circumstances(ahem steroids) could play a major part in resulting in the same

 

[Tim]

Although Mark Gillespie is 27, I think he's fairly promising too. He'll be dangerous in the WorldCup with Bond and Mills I believe.

 

[TT Boy]

Head and shoulders.

 

[FRAZ]

Asif is certainly the most proven out of all the current young seamers, and probably potentially the best too. Im actually quite with the state of fast bowling at the moment. There are several promising young fast bowlers around the world ATM, and its certainly better than the sorry state a few years ago. The bowlers who were in the same position 5 years ago or so who should be in their prime now- Ntini, Hoggard, Flintoff, Bond, Harmison, Nel, Sami, Nehra have all due to injury or just not being good enough merely amounted to being good but nothing special. Consequently the quality of international cricket has declined and only Australia has managed to maintain any sort of standard.
At least with Asif, Steyn, Taylor, Gul, Sreesanth, possibly Anderson and Johnson the future looks a lot brighter, although injury and other circumstances(ahem steroids) could play a major part in resulting in the same

I am sorry "my ideologies" and "mental categorizism" ,Oh God I am sorry but here I will have to agree with this man over this point . Good man..... Thanx

 

[Richard]

The bowlers who were in the same position 5 years ago or so who should be in their prime now- Ntini, Hoggard, Flintoff, Bond, Harmison, Nel, Sami, Nehra have all due to injury or just not being good enough merely amounted to being good but nothing special.

Ntini, Flintoff, Bond and Nel all still have the chance to become good Test bowlers IMO.

 

[Richard]

Although Mark Gillespie is 27, I think he's fairly promising too. He'll be dangerous in the WorldCup with Bond and Mills I believe.

For one who made such an inglorious journey to international cricket, he's sure as hell done a lot right so far.

 

[Richard]

Johnson...so long as he stays away from the wacky tabaccy...

Johnson smokes?

That sure as should set him back if so.

 

[Richard]

that's ridiculous to rate Johnson ahead of Asif when Asif has been damaging in both forms of the game. Johnson hasn't even played test cricket yet.

Hmm... let's look at the location and post-counts of those two identities now... and then jump to a logical conclusion...

 

[Beleg]

Ntini, Flintoff, Bond and Nel all still have the chance to become good Test bowlers IMO.

Ntini and Flintoff are 'GOOD' test bowlers already. Nel is borderline (I personally like the look of him a lot), and Bond, if he played with any sort of regularlity at all, would be the best of the lot.

 

[Richard]

OK, better than they are now, I should say.

 

[tooextracool]

Ntini, Flintoff, Bond and Nel all still have the chance to become good Test bowlers IMO.

They dont have the chance to be great bowlers though. It could be argued that all of those bar Nel are already good test bowlers, but they simply are now heading past their prime now.I think we are currently seeing the best of Ntini(and even at his best hes still rubbish in the subcontinent or basically wickets which dont offer him bounce), we've already seen the best of Flintoff and Bond, and i dont see Nel ever being consistent in his 30s.

 

[Richard]

I'm also beginning to worry that we've seen the best of Nel we're going to see, but I retain the hope that he'll attain some consistency, he's always had about as many of the tools as you could wish for.

I don't really think any of said names had any more potential than Your Routine Joe to be all-time greats - nothing struck me upon their entrance to the game "all-time great" the way it has with Asif since his second-coming.

 

[adharcric]

Easily.

 

[adharcric]

Ntini, Hoggard, Flintoff, Bond, Harmison, Nel, Sami, Nehra have all due to injury or just not being good enough merely amounted to good but nothing special(less so in the case of Harmison, Sami and Nehra).

The world's leading fast bowler is nothing special? Sad state of affairs tbh.