***Official*** Commonwealth Bank Tri-Series

[FaaipDeOiad]

The only thing that's kind of amusing about the KP injury is that he hurt himself charging McGrath, after he made such a point about doing it through the whole test series and exposing McGrath's lack of pace. Enough pace to break a rib, evidently.

It certainly takes some of the excitement out of the series though.

 

[Prince EWS]

Their real problem is their bowling attack which is just horrible. They basically have flintoff and everyone else is just fodder. Do any of the rest even average close to 30 in ODI's?

Before the most recent match:

Lewis 23.00
Flintoff 26.06
Anderson 27.11
Dalrymple 37.09
Collingwood 38.38

And Panesar of course had no average because he was on debut.

 

[Matt79]

What's with Anderson. He looks so terrible - is it just lack of cricket? He's been such a perennial squad member and 12th man that he's hardly played any county or international cricket, which I imagine can't help, but geez he's woefully inconsistent in his line and length for reputedly such a good bowler.

Do you know off the top of your head how many ODIs had Lewis sustained that average across prior to tonight's match, and how many of those were outside England?

 

[SpaceMonkey]

What's with Anderson. He looks so terrible - is it just lack of cricket? He's been such a perennial squad member and 12th man that he's hardly played any county or international cricket, which I imagine can't help, but geez he's woefully inconsistent in his line and length for reputedly such a good bowler.

Do you know off the top of your head how many ODIs had Lewis sustained that average across prior to tonight's match, and how many of those were outside England?

He's just come back from missing most of the English season and months of cricket with a stress fracture of his back. He's also had his action slightly remodelled. He really shouldnt have been picked on this tour.

 

[Prince EWS]

Do you know off the top of your head how many ODIs had Lewis sustained that average across prior to tonight's match, and how many of those were outside England?

Eight ODIs, seven of which were in England - and two of those were against Bangladesh...

 

[PY]

He's just come back from missing most of the English season and months of cricket with a stress fracture of his back. He's also had his action slightly remodelled. He really shouldnt have been picked on this tour.

He shouldn't have been picked but I'm struggling to think of a single English pacer who hasn't had an injury (not including Harmison & Hoggy who've had niggles with Freddie, Jones and Gilo having long layoffs as well) to stop him from playing cricket.

Plunkett, Tremlett & Anderson are the names that come to mind and they've all had injuries I believe. Might add weight to the argument for bringing back Corky....or letting our young bowlers get overs under their belt in CC before putting them into high octane situations.

 

[GIMH]

What's with Anderson. He looks so terrible - is it just lack of cricket? He's been such a perennial squad member and 12th man that he's hardly played any county or international cricket, which I imagine can't help, but geez he's woefully inconsistent in his line and length for reputedly such a good bowler.

Do you know off the top of your head how many ODIs had Lewis sustained that average across prior to tonight's match, and how many of those were outside England?

Not many and none AFAIK

EDIT - one outside England apparently. Was that in Ireland?

 

[vic_orthdox]

Flintoff is the 2nd best batsman in the side. Bell hasn't played enough ODI cricket IMO, and Flintoff's batting is only getting better. Vaughan and Strauss just don't make enough runs (Strauss boosting his stocks vs Bang), and no-one in the whole side outside of Pietersen (and it's something that's been a long term problem with England ODI side IMO) makes enough centuries. Someone makes 100 for you in ODI cricket, and you rarely lose.

Collingwood played his role, but didn't play it well enough, to the standard needed. Pietersen was playing Collingwood's "role" better than he, managing to get down the other end a lot easier than Collingwood did. Obviously the field was more spread for Pietersen, but (especially against Clarke) there were too many dot balls between singles.

 

[Arrow]

Lewis 23.00
Flintoff 26.06
Anderson 27.11
Dalrymple 37.09
Collingwood 38.38
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Anderson looks like a 50 average this tour and Lewis obviously has only had a few games. They are all crap except Monty and Flintoff.
NZ are not much better, a pack of no names and Bond is who is just medium fast these days. Australia will run amok this series.

 

[_Ed_]

NZ are not much better, a pack of no names and Bond is who is just medium fast these days. Australia will run amok this series.

He hit 150 several times last Saturday...is that medium fast?

Gillespie is up at 145 consistently and should hurry up plenty of batsmen this series. And Vettori is always hard to get away during the middle overs.

 

[Arrow]

He hit 150 several times last Saturday...is that medium fast?
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Ive seen him bowl a bit lately and I have not even seen a deliver over 140, so id be surprised that hes around 150. If he is then its once in a blue moon because all I have been seeing is 130s consistently.

 

[Nate]

NZ are not much better, a pack of no names and Bond is who is just medium fast these days.

Funniest sentence.

 

[_Ed_]

Ive seen him bowl a bit lately and I have not even seen a deliver over 140, so id be surprised that hes around 150. If he is then its once in a blue moon because all I have been seeing is 130s consistently.

Maybe the big screen speed radar was playing up then. And my eyes too, since he was clearly faster than anyone else in the match, including Malinga.

 

[Arrow]

Maybe the big screen speed radar was playing up then. And my eyes too, since he was clearly faster than anyone else in the match, including Malinga.

I was specifically watching Malinga and he was consistently 145-150 all match. I watched a lot of Bonds overs and never saw a ball over 140kph. Consistent 130s. You are lying or you must of been dreaming.

 

[_Ed_]

Quite offended to be accused of lying.

But I apologise, I'm sure you're right and my view from behind the bowler's arm at the ground must have been nowhere near as good as I thought it was.

 

[Josh]

Jeez White was unlucky today. Would have to be the toughest man to bowl to as a slow bowler, Pietersen. Needn't worry now tho.

 

[Dasa]

Ive seen him bowl a bit lately and I have not even seen a deliver over 140, so id be surprised that hes around 150. If he is then its once in a blue moon because all I have been seeing is 130s consistently.

Nope. He hits 150 regularly. I don't know what matches you've been watching.


Anyway, went to the match today. Collingwood didn't look good at all while he was out there, and with the field spread should've been able to take a few more singles at least. Bar Pietersen and Flintoff, the batsmen were pretty poor. The bowling...well, not much to say about that. Ponting/Gilchrist/Clarke all batted well without doing anything special.

 

[Arrow]

Nope. He hits 150 regularly. I don't know what matches you've been watching.
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As I said I have not seen it and I was specifically watching for it. I guess we will all see him hitting 150 regularily this series right? See you here soon then.

 

[Laurrz]

White should not be criticised, Warne also got smacked for sixes by KP...not unusual

 

[Prince EWS]

Anderson looks like a 50 average this tour and Lewis obviously has only had a few games. They are all crap except Monty and Flintoff.
NZ are not much better, a pack of no names and Bond is who is just medium fast these days. Australia will run amok this series.

Just because Anderson looks like a 50 average bowler this tour doesn't make him "crap" - as his record shows, he is merely out of form/lacking in fitness/lacking in match practice.