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***Official*** Commonwealth Bank Tri-Series

Fiery

Banned
You still seem to be totally missing the point though. All the players you listed are in the squad for their bowling more than anything else, and Cook can't bowl.
I didn't miss your point at all. I just think it's a waste of talent to leave him out for the sake of these other donkeys. Should try to select your best players
 
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Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I didn't miss your point at all. I just think it's a waste of talent to leave him out for the sake of these other donkeys. Should try to select your best players
Yes you did miss the point. Those who miss points rarely actually know they miss them or they would not have missed them at all.

They are in the squad to bowl. There's no point picking Cook in the squad just because he is "better" than them if he has less chance of playing. I'm sure he'll be drafted in now that Pietersen is injured, but considering the fact that the England batting was settled and the bowling was far from such, picking several bowlers in the squad made sense as they were more likely to get dropped.

Furthermore, two of the players you listed are actually in the best England XI and have had reasonably good starts to their ODI career.

Picking Cook just because he is supposedly "better" defeats the purpose of naming a squad - that being to pick a range of players who are most likely to play. Given the state of the England batting in relation to the England bowling at ODI level, picking more backup bowlers than backup batsmen made perfect sense - and you in fact actually listed two players in the starting XI anyway rather than the backups who you would naturally assume are worse.

If Cook was to be in the squad ahead of someone else, it would be Joyce or possibly Plunkett, not Dalrymple, Lewis or Mahmood.
 

meatspx

U19 Cricketer
What a boring match... Why didnt the Aussie go for the bonus point?
First I've heard of a bonus point haha

Didn't the Australians learn their listen with bonus points the last time SA/NZL were in the tri-series? :huh:

They needed 38 runs off 3 overs to get past the english total after 40 overs if I remember correctly. They could have reduced that to 25 off 3 overs then had a slog....would have been interesting
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
First I've heard of a bonus point haha

Didn't the Australians learn their listen with bonus points the last time SA/NZL were in the tri-series? :huh:

They needed 38 runs off 3 overs to get past the english total after 40 overs if I remember correctly. They could have reduced that to 25 off 3 overs then had a slog....would have been interesting
I was going to correct your spelling...then I saw where you are from :p That's exactly how I'd imagine it to sound in NZ!
 

Fiery

Banned
Yes you did miss the point. Those who miss points rarely actually know they miss them or they would not have missed them at all.

They are in the squad to bowl. There's no point picking Cook in the squad just because he is "better" than them if he has less chance of playing. I'm sure he'll be drafted in now that Pietersen is injured, but considering the fact that the England batting was settled and the bowling was far from such, picking several bowlers in the squad made sense as they were more likely to get dropped.

Furthermore, two of the players you listed are actually in the best England XI and have had reasonably good starts to their ODI career.

Picking Cook just because he is supposedly "better" defeats the purpose of naming a squad - that being to pick a range of players who are most likely to play. Given the state of the England batting in relation to the England bowling at ODI level, picking more backup bowlers than backup batsmen made perfect sense - and you in fact actually listed two players in the starting XI anyway rather than the backups who you would naturally assume are worse.

If Cook was to be in the squad ahead of someone else, it would be Joyce or possibly Plunkett, not Dalrymple, Lewis or Mahmood.
OK, you win. Sorry, I miss points all the time. Your selectors are obviously geniuses going by their spectacular results on this tour. Seriously, I just think it's a shame to leave him out of a squad that contains several lesser cricketers.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
haha what tool... nice effort to try and give the bowlers some assistance by falling over on the pitch though :p

MOTM?? Bracken & Johnson the leading candidates imo
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
OK, you win. Sorry, I miss points all the time. Your selectors are obviously geniuses going by their spectacular results on this tour. Seriously, I just think it's a shame to leave him out of a squad that contains several lesser cricketers.
Cook's domestic one day record is quite poor. He averages under 30 and only has three half centuries with no hundreds.

Given though, he hasn't played many games, and I probably would have picked him in front of Joyce anyway. But to whinge about bowlers (particularly those in the first choice XI) being selected ahead of him is just silly... you might as well call for Nixon and Read to be dropped for him. He's clearly a better cricketer than those two players but you have to go for balance.

Also, they aren't "my" selectors, my point-missing friend.
 

Fiery

Banned
Cook's domestic one day record is quite poor. He averages under 30 and only has three half centuries with no hundreds.

Given though, he hasn't played many games, and I probably would have picked him in front of Joyce anyway. But to whinge about bowlers (particularly those in the first choice XI) being selected ahead of him is just silly... you might as well call for Nixon and Read to be dropped for him. He's clearly a better cricketer than those two players but you have to go for balance.

Also, they aren't "my" selectors, my point-missing friend.
This is a 300 pitch. Australia will win with 6-7 overs to spare.
Never doubt me
 

Fiery

Banned
I still think it's only about a 250 pitch. England have just bowled puss and Australia have batted well.
Disagree again. It is a 300 pitch. England were 60 short due to slow batting from Bell and Collingwood and to Peitersen's untimely dismissal
 

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