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***Official*** T20 Champions League in South Africa
- Thread starter vic_orthdox
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GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
I guess they had to exclude English teams given our absolute domination of the format in recent times internationally. Give everyone a chance. 
Sadly though, marc is correct. I quite enjoyed the last tournament but both the things he said are correct. I argued at length a year and two years ago about how ******** it is to not allow players that have signed for you since qualification to play (I presume such rule is still in place) and the monopolisation of players playing for their IPL sides rather than their proper sides.
Nonetheless, I assume Eurosport are showing it again so I will watch as much as I can. Dunno who to support though.
Sadly though, marc is correct. I quite enjoyed the last tournament but both the things he said are correct. I argued at length a year and two years ago about how ******** it is to not allow players that have signed for you since qualification to play (I presume such rule is still in place) and the monopolisation of players playing for their IPL sides rather than their proper sides.
Nonetheless, I assume Eurosport are showing it again so I will watch as much as I can. Dunno who to support though.
Yeah Hampshire would have destroyed everyone no doubt.I guess they had to exclude English teams given our absolute domination of the format in recent times internationally. Give everyone a chance.
Is there a 'Royals' team that I have been told to support in this?
Beamer
International Vice-Captain
I very much doubt Guyana will be as impressive as T & T were last year, particularly in South African conditions.
Bishoo is a brilliant young leggie, Foo hits the ball miles, Sarwan will steady the ship and Dowlin will definitely score runs at that level. Other than that though the team is very average.
Still I will be supporting them all the way. Good luck mudland!
Bishoo is a brilliant young leggie, Foo hits the ball miles, Sarwan will steady the ship and Dowlin will definitely score runs at that level. Other than that though the team is very average.
Still I will be supporting them all the way. Good luck mudland!
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
I'll back one of Mumbai and Bangalore for this event, for the Indian players to figure.
I may be late on the discussion, but what's stopping Ross Taylor or Mike Hussey from playing for his chosen or home team? They can refuse the pay hikes, and the boards can support them. They won't go bankrupt if they oppose their IPL franchise, will they? It can put those greedy franchise owners- the real villains of the pack- in place. And what's stopping the governing body from restricting the maximum number of overseas players in a team to level things out? Or pushing aside the franchise owners to give the players a choice? The franchise owners need these internationals in those patched-up teams a lot more than the BCCI, surely.
Why can't they exclude the IPL from the Champions' League? It's anyway a platform for IPL contracts, not the ultimate event. They can make do with Indian state teams, and that won't hurt the league much. The IPL teams hardly did much in the last league, and were outperformed by the Aussies, Somerset, Trinidad and Cape Cobras, with only two internationals between those teams. A full-strength Mumbai or Karnataka or Delhi can be just as competitive as the top IPL teams and a lot more than Deccan Chargers.
Looking at each country's representation per team in this event, South Africa, Sri Lanka and West Indies field completely home-grown teams, making it eleven. New Zealand and Australia have at least nine or ten, with the gates open only this year in Australia. England have it high with nine, though they're not in the event, while Pakistan could easily field eleven. India, on the other hand, can just manage seven in a team. Doesn't that suggest something odd here? Yes, there's a third IPL team, but that's because the Pakistani team isn't in the mix, nor does any other country have an extra team.
Yet, these other teams do well with little to no overseas involvement, but IPL does not wish to learn. They've tried to set aside local players for the benefit of overseas signings, even those who are barely established. It didn't work in the Champions' League, but it still seems to go on, and the sooner something is done, the better.
This makes me want to root for Central Districts against Bangalore with Ross Taylor. Really.
I may be late on the discussion, but what's stopping Ross Taylor or Mike Hussey from playing for his chosen or home team? They can refuse the pay hikes, and the boards can support them. They won't go bankrupt if they oppose their IPL franchise, will they? It can put those greedy franchise owners- the real villains of the pack- in place. And what's stopping the governing body from restricting the maximum number of overseas players in a team to level things out? Or pushing aside the franchise owners to give the players a choice? The franchise owners need these internationals in those patched-up teams a lot more than the BCCI, surely.
Why can't they exclude the IPL from the Champions' League? It's anyway a platform for IPL contracts, not the ultimate event. They can make do with Indian state teams, and that won't hurt the league much. The IPL teams hardly did much in the last league, and were outperformed by the Aussies, Somerset, Trinidad and Cape Cobras, with only two internationals between those teams. A full-strength Mumbai or Karnataka or Delhi can be just as competitive as the top IPL teams and a lot more than Deccan Chargers.
Looking at each country's representation per team in this event, South Africa, Sri Lanka and West Indies field completely home-grown teams, making it eleven. New Zealand and Australia have at least nine or ten, with the gates open only this year in Australia. England have it high with nine, though they're not in the event, while Pakistan could easily field eleven. India, on the other hand, can just manage seven in a team. Doesn't that suggest something odd here? Yes, there's a third IPL team, but that's because the Pakistani team isn't in the mix, nor does any other country have an extra team.
Yet, these other teams do well with little to no overseas involvement, but IPL does not wish to learn. They've tried to set aside local players for the benefit of overseas signings, even those who are barely established. It didn't work in the Champions' League, but it still seems to go on, and the sooner something is done, the better.
This makes me want to root for Central Districts against Bangalore with Ross Taylor. Really.
Flem274*
123/5
With Taylor and Oram out, a lot falls on the shoulders of the inbetweenies: The several CD batsmen who dominate domestic cricket but only enjoy sporadic success at the top level.
I can't recall, do we get Graham Napier?
Our team will look something like:
Peter Ingram
Jamie How
Mathew Sinclair
Tim Weston
George Worker
Bevan Griggs
Doug Bracewell
Brendon Diamanti
Michael Mason
Mitchell McClenaghan
Seth Rance/Adam Milne
The batting is now really light, though hopefully with Oram out we'll bring in wicketkeeper Kruger van Wyk, who wasn't selected for this squad but has been poached from Canterbury. He could make it into this side on batting alone, though I would also give him the gloves.
Now we've all seen the top three, but on the rest:
Tim Weston is a decent FC middle order batsman but isn't a power hitter or a notable 20/20 batsman, but he'll probably look to push the ball around and tick the strike over.
George Worker can hit but has a get to 20-30 and out thing. He can also bowl some handy left arm spin and is almost domestic quality on his spin bowling alone.
Bevan Griggs is almost a specialist keeper but in fairness his batting has really, really improved in the last couple of years so he can hold his own.
Doug Bracewell is a big hitting all rounder and bowls some aggressive into the wicket stuff at 135-140kph. He was one of the quicker bowlers at the U19 world cup.
Mitchell McClenaghan was pretty fast before his injury, with decent bounce as well. He's had a season off with a hip injury though so hopefully he gets back into it as per normal.
Adam Milne is a 17 year old who bowls around 140 clicks and had a good start to his FC career. He looks promising, but he hasn't played any 20/20 for CD yet.
Seth Rance is a medium pacer but he gets a lot of swing. probably swung it more than anyone else in the cup last year. If there's no movement for him he might struggle, but if there is it will be good fun.
I can't recall, do we get Graham Napier?
Our team will look something like:
Peter Ingram
Jamie How
Mathew Sinclair
Tim Weston
George Worker
Bevan Griggs
Doug Bracewell
Brendon Diamanti
Michael Mason
Mitchell McClenaghan
Seth Rance/Adam Milne
The batting is now really light, though hopefully with Oram out we'll bring in wicketkeeper Kruger van Wyk, who wasn't selected for this squad but has been poached from Canterbury. He could make it into this side on batting alone, though I would also give him the gloves.
Now we've all seen the top three, but on the rest:
Tim Weston is a decent FC middle order batsman but isn't a power hitter or a notable 20/20 batsman, but he'll probably look to push the ball around and tick the strike over.
George Worker can hit but has a get to 20-30 and out thing. He can also bowl some handy left arm spin and is almost domestic quality on his spin bowling alone.
Bevan Griggs is almost a specialist keeper but in fairness his batting has really, really improved in the last couple of years so he can hold his own.
Doug Bracewell is a big hitting all rounder and bowls some aggressive into the wicket stuff at 135-140kph. He was one of the quicker bowlers at the U19 world cup.
Mitchell McClenaghan was pretty fast before his injury, with decent bounce as well. He's had a season off with a hip injury though so hopefully he gets back into it as per normal.
Adam Milne is a 17 year old who bowls around 140 clicks and had a good start to his FC career. He looks promising, but he hasn't played any 20/20 for CD yet.
Seth Rance is a medium pacer but he gets a lot of swing. probably swung it more than anyone else in the cup last year. If there's no movement for him he might struggle, but if there is it will be good fun.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
*Official* Champions League T20
Friday 10th Sept - Sun 26th Sept, South Africa.
Group A
A1 Chennai Super Kings
A2 Warriors
A3 Victoria
A4 Wayamba
A5 Central Districts
Group B
B1 Mumbai Indians
B2 Lions
B3 South Australia
B4 Royal Challengers Bangalore
B5 Guyana
Friday 10th Sept - Sun 26th Sept, South Africa.
Group A
A1 Chennai Super Kings
A2 Warriors
A3 Victoria
A4 Wayamba
A5 Central Districts
Group B
B1 Mumbai Indians
B2 Lions
B3 South Australia
B4 Royal Challengers Bangalore
B5 Guyana
