How so? Have you even bothered to examine the relevant statistics (vis-a-vis, those not distorted by Grace's playing on too long)? His coming was far more a revelation to the game than Bradman's, and that is proven by the wealth of records that he not only broke but absolutely smashed, and how comparatively far ahead of his contemporaries he was.
So, although it might not have happened -- indeed, it is highly likely that it did not happen --, it nevertheless counts against him?
In the name of impressive beards and colossal girth, allow me to repeat myself: William Gilbert Grace was not knighted.
I believe that W.G. frequently had his contemporaries' foibles projected onto him. The tired anecdote which Lillian Thomson relates was almost certainly an appropriation of Harry Jupp's mischief at a local ground in the 1870s, and for this story, at least, we have confirmation:
hehe but It doesnt matter . Atleast I did !
Every single one I've heard along said lines (and yes, there are a few) is in games where the status was of no consequence.
That's delightful -- it really is --, but would you care to put it in English?
Yes indeed. I shan't stand for such know-nothing cretins.Every single one I've heard along said lines (and yes, there are a few) is in games where the status was of no consequence.
C_C was another to attempt to hold said games against Grace. Thank the Lord he and Nev never crossed paths!!!!!!
I cant think of another phrase that describes him better. But you know what, he spoke with so much authority (read aggression) even when he was patently wrong (including on facts) that those with passing knowledge of the game were mighty impressed.
You're a good poster nev, but sometimes you cross the line. How dare you act condescending to King FRAZ?!
FRAZmeister doesn't really do English TBH. And we love him for 't.
God, why don't you pat him on the head?
I know the sort. Perhaps, though, the perceived aggression of yours truly (founded on what he believes is an authoritative factual base) will do the same. At any rate, W.G. deserves it.I cant think of another phrase that describes him better. But you know what, he spoke with so much authority (read aggression) even when he was patently wrong (including on facts) that those with passing knowledge of the game were mighty impressed.
I fully understand that, but 'twas more piss-taking self-indulgence than condescending linguistic arrogance. I'm reasonably certain, though, from what I have seen of him, that FRAZ will take it the latter way. If not, however, I'll be more than happy to extend a hearty apology (at least once he tells me what on Earth he was getting at).
Well in a way yes but that makes for a very welcome change in a 'market place' where most people have very poor knowledge of the history of the game beyond their father's generation and think anything that existed before Tv must have been of poor quality anyway. Where batsmen are disparaged by saying they batted against poor attacks and bowlers are run down by saying that they bowled on horrendous wickets for batting - both at the same time !! Where anyone who bowled before the advent of the speed gun just wasn't fast enough. As if the speed gun somehow injected speed in cricket.
